I'm looking into buying a 93 Del Sol that has had its AC and power steering taken out to reduce weight and engine stress. I've heard from another source that it is bad for the car to run without power steering... that it needs the fluid running through the system to keep it running nice. Is this right? i dont understand why someone would delete a necessary component like that. is this "source" right, or is he spittin out BS?

 

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Running a power steering rack without any fluid is bad. Running one without the pump, but with the fluid lines looped and fluid in it is generally considered ok by people here. (whether or not it actually does any damage to the car over time is not something I can state as fact.)

Normally, to remove power steering, it is best to use a non-power steering rack. However, in the case of Civics and Integras, the non-power racks that are a direct fit have significantly worse ratios than the power units. So, if you want the tighter steering but without power, you end up using a modified power steering rack.

 

IMO I would not remove the PS pump. What are you really saving. If you remove the PS pump have leave some fluid in the lines even looped. How long can you drive before the fluid gets to hot ? 100 miles, 200 miles, 300 miles?

We replaced the rack in the race car. It's safer.

 

ahhh, yeah i guess it wouldn't be worth the hassle. thanks for the great info!!!

 

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Along the lines of power steering fluid and heat.

I was just wondering where the majority of the heat is generated in the system. I always assumed it was the pump that generated most of the heat.....but now I'm thinking it must be in the rack itself. Can anyone verify where the large majority of heat comes from?

If one was to loop it using the stock steel cooling line along the top of the rack or maybe run it down the firewall and along the floor beside the brake lines would that help???? I know that without the pump you may not get the best flow for cooling but some is better than none isn't it?

Just looking for some good info on looping and getting rid of the heat issue.

 

I have wondered the same thing.

We need a thermodynamics and someone with fluidynamics to really answer that.

But if we think about the movement in the rack which is where the heat comes from and the lack of pump to move the fluid through the 3 plus feet of hose and tubing. How is the hot fluid going to get mixed with the cooler fluid ?

Hope that helps to explain it.

Now if you were to find a small electric pump to put in line...