i have a b18a1 with some bolt-ons and im looking into crower camshafts. i see that they have stage 1 and stage 2. on a site i was on it said that you did need the retainer/spring kit for the stage2, but on one site for brian crower cams its says you dont. it says that will work on stock setup. does anyone know if this is true? im trying to get a little more out of myc ar without breaking my pockets. i would like to get just a stage 1 camshaft kit, so i dotn have to buy the retainer kit. with the stage 1 cams will i see any difference, or should i get the stage 2 cams off the site thats ays no replacing anyhting?somene pelase help me

 

You can use 403's without additional valve train or tuning and you will get a nice power gain. 404's require substantial headwork and compression to make power.

 

so i can buy a set of 403's and put them in with all my stock stuff and have no problems? where can i find them cheap?

 

you can use the 403's with the stock valve train as long as you dont go above the stock rev-limiter.

 

ok this might be a dumb question but what is the stock revlimit ina b18a1 5speed ls ? i have mine installed in a 91 civic hatchback and im not sure on the revlimit. im also aboutto order a chipped and socketed ecu and dont want my revlimit too high, beacuase i get to pick my revlimit and they set it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bertsb18hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a b18a1 with some bolt-ons and im looking into crower camshafts. i see that they have stage 1 and stage 2. on a site i was on it said that you did need the retainer/spring kit for the stage2, but on one site for brian crower cams its says you dont. it says that will work on stock setup. does anyone know if this is true? im trying to get a little more out of myc ar without breaking my pockets. i would like to get just a stage 1 camshaft kit, so i dotn have to buy the retainer kit. with the stage 1 cams will i see any difference, or should i get the stage 2 cams off the site thats ays no replacing anyhting?somene pelase help me</TD></TR></TABLE>

to answer the question about the differences between the two sites, before BC left Crower, it'd say for the stage 2 sohc vtec cam that spring/ret kit is recommended, and for stage 3 it's required.

After he left, the verbage changed and it then said "required" for both. Either Crower is very cautious or is simply trying to sell more spring kits, or a little of both. this reasoning is prolly the case for the b18 non-vtec cams too...

 

You will find the best deals here or ebay. I couldn't find these cams cheap anywhere except ebay.

Stock rev limit is 7200. The 404's make power past 8000, so they are a waste unless you get valvetrain as well.