I dont often post in the tech forum, never, had a reason to, however, I have a couple of simple questions....

1. Is clutch fluid the same fluid as transmission fluid. (I recently change the tranny fluid on my R, however, I totally overlooked the clutch fluid)
2. Where is the bleeder valve for the clutch fluid (a picture would be perfect)
3. How much fluid does the car take (I have read .5 of a liter)
4. Should I just stick with Honda brand clutch fluid? (I have Honda MTF in the tranny, and from what I have read, its does the job well)

Thanks!


Modified by RaVAGE00 at 9:42 AM 5/15/2003

 

Clutch fluid is brake fluid. The bleeder valve is on the slave cylinder, at the transmission. Any good DOT3 or DOT4 brake fluid is o.k.

 

ok. thanks... so its brake fluid.... does the bleeder valve have a little black rubber stopper attached to it.... I always wondered what that was..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RaVAGE00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does the bleeder valve have a little black rubber stopper attached to it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, the bleeder valve has the little black rubber dust cover, just like the brake calipers.

 

cool. thanks. I know exactly where that little black rubber SOB is....

Bleeding Process.

Attach a hose to the bleeder valve
Open resivour cover stir it up thereby suspending the dirt
crack the valve open
pump the clutch peddle by hand
top up the fluid
Repeat.....
Does this sound right?

 

I use a vacuula to suck out all of the old fluid from the reservoir, then refill it with clean fluid. Attach a hose to the bleeder valve and stick it in a bottle of brake fluid, so that air is not sucked in when the pedal is traveling up. Have a friend pump the pedal slowly 3-4 times, then hold it on the floor. Crack the bleeder, close the bleeder. Repeat. I do it about 15-20 times to make sure all of the old fluid is flushed out.

 

couple of questions...

1. WTH is a Vaccula?
2. When you suck out all the fluid from the resivour, doesnt air get into the lines? I thought you always need fluid in the resivour?

Thanks!

 

A Vacuula is a compressed air vacuum system with fluid reservoir. Basically it's a 1/2 gallon plastic tank with a lid that has two fittings on it. One fitting goes to a compressed air source, the other fitting attaches to a hose that you can connect to brake calipers for bleeding.
As for the second question, there is a little bit of fluid at the bottom of the clutch reservoir when you suck out all of the dirty fluid, so air does not get in the line. But you are bleeding the system, so if air gets in, you bleed it out anyway.

 

ok.. will this tool make the job a one man operation... i.e. I will NOT have to pump the clutch or brake pedal while bleeding?

http://www.lukclutch.com/produ...0Tool



Modified by RaVAGE00 at 12:55 PM 5/15/2003

 

Honestly, I don't use the Vacuula for bleeding the clutch, just cleaning the reservoir. When I bleed the clutch by myself, I pump the pedal 3-4 times, the use a very long screwdriver or brake pedal holder to hold the clutch pedal down. Then I open and close the bleeder,repeat as many times as necessary.

 

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Attach a hose to the bleeder valve
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Sorry for the noobie questiong, but the other end of this hose goes into the container of clutch fluid correct?

 

Also (sorry, this is my first manual tranny car),
There are 3 fluid levels to watch:
clutch fluid
tranny fluid
oil

I always thought clutch and tranny fluid were the same on manual transmission cars?

 

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There are 3 fluid levels to watch:
clutch fluid
tranny fluid
oil

I always thought clutch and tranny fluid were the same on manual transmission cars? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought the same, however, they are different. Clutch fluid and brake fluid are one, therefore, the same stufff you use for the brakes you use for the clutch. For the tranny, it is a different fluid all together, I have replace this stuff already twice - I used standard Honda MTF.

As for the gizmo that make the job a one man operation, you are correct... One end connects to the bleeder valve, the other end connects to new bottle of fluid..... hope that helps....

 

Oil
Tranny Fluid
Brake Fluid
Clutch Fluid

if your clutch fluid is getting low, then there is a problem....same with brake fluid...always good to bleed both once a month if you have nothing better to do and drive your car hard...

 

hmmmm. My clutch fluid is a tab low, however, I jacked the car... inspected the tranny and did not see ANY signs of leaking... also, no oil is evident when/where the car is parked....

Does this fluid dissipate over time?

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Tranny Fluid
Brake Fluid
Clutch Fluid

if your clutch fluid is getting low, then there is a problem....same with brake fluid...always good to bleed both once a month if you have nothing better to do and drive your car hard...</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Check your clutch master cylinder for signs of leakage-inside the car, above the clutch pedal, at the rubber boot.


Modified by b19coupe at 5:05 AM 5/16/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check your clutch master cylinder for signs of leakage-inside the car, above the clutch pedal, at the rbber boot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Already done.... NOOOOOO leakage....

 

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For the tranny, it is a different fluid all together, I have replace this stuff already twice - I used standard Honda MTF.

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With automatic trannys, I just added ATF via the tranny dipstick hole. is this the same for manual trannys, or is there a plug you remove with a 3/8" ratchet that you fill the mtf level to?

 

Manual trannies have a 17mm fill bolt on the same side as the drain plug, kinda by the right axle seal.

 

do it

 

yeah mine does that right now.....can't find a cheap master clutch cylinder anywhere??

Jack MOVE: anyone know where I can find one??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RaVAGE00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">couple of questions...
1. WTH is a Vaccula?
2. When you suck out all the fluid from the resivour, doesnt air get into the lines? I thought you always need fluid in the resivour?
Thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>
1. I don't know, but use a turkey baster. Just don't ever use it on food again. I've got an old battery hydrometer that had a broken float. Just something to suck out the old fluid.

2. Suck out all you can get, you won't get air into the lines if you don't press the pedal. Fill the reservoir with fresh fluid BEFORE you start pumping the clutch pedal.

 

I did a clutch fluid bleed. I used Motul 600... this ok to use? Correct?

 

yep. that's fine

 

giddy up! one question... if I walk into Acura parts dept and ask for a liter of clutch fluid.... are they just going to hand me... honda brake fluid?