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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 02:31 PM
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Default Is the Centerforce Dual- Friction good for street?

Is the Centerforce Dualfriction the best choice for the street or does ACT make a better package and what is it. approx. 200hp @ wheels
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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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I have no first hand experience, but everyone that I know that has had a centerforce did not like them- they all switched to ACT and were pleased. Whatever. I am going Exedy once my flywheel is in.
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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 04:19 PM
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My friend put in a centerforce d/f into his zc ef and it has not failed him yet but i HATE it! i put the ACT in my ls/vtec and it works much better. he has diven my car too and would go ACT if he were to do it again. Also i know a few people who have replaced their clutch with the d/f and it has failed them within a year of hard driving. i beat mine on the street and reace it as much as i can and have never had it slip at all... even on nitrous (300 hp).

short and sweet....ACT.
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:57 AM
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I would say that a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch is much more streetable than an ACT clutch. I personally have a Centerforce Dual Friction and it is great. I'm putting down near 200whp and it takes all of it, no slipping. Been running on it for 2 years. It's not as harsh as the ACT clutch. I've installed a couple of ACT clutches and although I will be the first to admit, their grabbing power is AMAZING....even with the street disc, it's REALLY harsh on axles and transmission internals. When you release the clutch in a "race" condition, POP....it's in gear. The whole car snaps violently. This is great for racing or for people that don't mind swapping transmissions or axles every year or so, but not for the daily driver. Again, this is my opinion. My friend has gone through 2 JDM YS1 transmissions and snapped 1 alxe in a period of 1.5 years. OUCH. He is a good driver. Well, let's put it this way, he drives the same as me and I don't have the problems he has. Just something to be careful about.






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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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ACT all the way. I've had mine for 3 years now and it still grabs hard as hell.

No broken axles, busted trannys or ground gears.

And, I'm running a xtreme street.

CF is garbage in my book.

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 10:10 AM
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I'm curious. What personal problems have you had with Centerforce that make you think it's crap? One of my good friends, my brother, and I are all running CF Dual Friction and love them to death. Near stock pedal pressure with loads of grabbing power. Very smooth clutch engagement. And it's obvious that the CF can take track abuse. I ran a 13.8 quarter with full interior in my HEAVY G2 with Toda/ITR motor. And my clutch still goes on strong.

My friend that has tranny problems is running a ACT Street disc with Extreme pressure plate.

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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 12:41 PM
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I had the CF Dual on my old *** SOHC, it lasted me 11k miles. That's weak, not only that, but it started slipping around 8k miles, and if I had a full load (4 people) in my car, the damm thing would slip badly no matter what.

Like I said, CF is garbage in my book, but that's my personal opinion.
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 08:14 AM
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Well...sorry for your bad experience. But many things could have caused your problems. First off, proper installation is KEY. the flywheel must be resurfaced and proper torque sequence followed as per the FSM. Next, the 500 mile break in period (no hard shifts.....slow transitions....city stop and go driving) must be followed to the letter. If not, the clutch disc will not properly seat against the flywheel and will cause chattering, slipping, and eventual failure. Even with all that said, you are still very much entitled to your own opinion. We'll just agree to disagree .

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:38 AM
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Gee Dplatt, I never knew that. Maybe that's why it never worked.

Whatdoyouthink? I'm stupid?

Don't make ignorant assumptions when you don't know what the circumstances are.

You keep with your CF, and I'll stay right here with ACT.
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 04:48 PM
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I never made any "ignorant" assumptions. I said that these COULD have been your problem. Your the one saying "Centerforce sucks" and not giving any reasons until asked, and even then you don't give the circumstances or details. That makes you look ignorant. Everyone is going to back the product they have, otherwise why would they still have it? I'm sorry if you took me stating the reasons on how a CF could fail as why yours did. I wasn't trying to imply that you are stupid. I didn't even know if you installed it yourself or if you had someone else do it. That's why I said could. Okay, beating a dead horse here. Peace.

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Old Dec 5, 2020 | 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Is the Centerforce Dual- Friction good for street?

I know this is an old thread but I am looking to buy a Centreforce Dual Friction clutch for my B18C turbo set up. I have had previous B series turbo and Clutchmasters 6 puck clutch. Had amazing grabbing power, but it was not smooth at all. I was always in race mode because the clutch was either on or off, so i'd be taking off at every traffic light.
It is my understanding that the dual friction clutch is more streetable, so is there a type which will handle the power of a turbo setup? I should be making approx 350whp.
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