Hello guys,

I just started driving STICK. I love it but I want to drive it WELL (without damaging the car in anyway). I want to drive it smooth.

Are there any resources/website, I can look at to learn more about driving stick well??

Another concern is I don't want to burn my clutch and make sure I'm using it properly. For example, when I shift from 1->2, 2->3, as I bring up the clutch to the catch point, I give it a little gas to smooth it out. From 3->4, I don't give it any gas and just shift.

Do you add gas when shifting? What's the best way to not wear out your clutch?

I've been driving stick for 2 weeks, and want to get this mastered. I love driving.

-Sphinxica

 

pm me with any question you have, as technical as you can expain it and ill let ya know

... No you do NOT want to give it gas in a shift. dont listen to whoever told you that.

If you are trying to "eliminate that bump" between your shifts, all it really is, is a timing thing... lets say for argument sakes..

you are in 1st gear at 5k rpms doing 20mph...
in 2nd gear at 3k you are doing 20mph...

so when you are in 1st taking it up to 5k, you want the next gear to engage at 3k to be smooth, so you wait for the RPMs to drop off and match the next gears speed... its basically all timing, a "feel thing" that you will get used to, but DONT BURN UR CLUTCH OR LISTEN TO ANYONE THAT SAYS YOU NEED CLUTCH TO DRIVE..

even when you are starting from a dead stop... there is NO NEED to
vroo vroo vroo vroooooooooooooooooooooooooom away. without using gas, slip your foot off the clutch until you feel it engange, or the car start to vibrate, and walk your foot off it after it has momentum..

you technically can fully drive your car without ever depressing the clutch (except starting obviously)

this all might be random and hard to make sense of lol PM me for clairification! clutch burning= wack!!!


Modified by thatbluecrx at 12:00 PM 3/19/2005

 

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from the stop i always give about 2k rpm and let cluch slow..bad????
also everytime i shift i give lillilili gas when cluch is almost enguaged...bad???

btw: hard to drive smooth 1st to 2nd..(i can make it smooth if i give lil more gas and let clutch go slow likw 1st gear.but it will eat clutch faster )


Modified by Chris DC2 at 4:04 PM 3/19/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thatbluecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you technically can fully drive your car without ever depressing the clutch (except starting obviously)
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i used to do that ALL the time. I've stopped since the motor swap though, due to the addition of an extremely short throw shifter

 

Yea driving without using the clutch is a very useful skill. I had to drive my friends crvtec all the way to the shop with a broken clutch, rev-matching the whole way. As long as you don't come to a complete stop, it's basically like driving an old diesel or a semi..

 

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damn..thats some skillz man..more detail how?

 

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damn..thats some skillz man..more detail how?</TD></TR></TABLE>

sure its actually quite easy.. but i've been warmed it might be harmful to your syncros...

basically you start out knowing that which ever gear you are in, when you back off the throttle, use a little pressure and it will slip out of gear with no clutch...
now you kind of "lean the shift level" into the next gear, hold it their with some pressure, and when the motor matches transmission speed it will slip right in, sometimes smoother then using a clutch... dont get me wrong i've grinded doing it but rare... if your syncros are torn up, dont try this, as instead of "leaning on the gear" you will crash rite into it and grinddd

hope that helps

 

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sure its actually quite easy.. but i've been warmed it might be harmful to your syncros...

basically you start out knowing that which ever gear you are in, when you back off the throttle, use a little pressure and it will slip out of gear with no clutch...
now you kind of "lean the shift level" into the next gear, hold it their with some pressure, and when the motor matches transmission speed it will slip right in, sometimes smoother then using a clutch... dont get me wrong i've grinded doing it but rare... if your syncros are torn up, dont try this, as instead of "leaning on the gear" you will crash rite into it and grinddd

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you guys better start putting that autoloc on the gas pedal

 

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No ****.

Don't discuss stupid **** people.. it's not good on your gears. Even if it's not grinding, it's causing wear.. which will decrease transmission longevity.

It wears down more than just a synchro.

Learn to drive stick properly.

 

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yo im just saying.. alot of people dont.... they think it wont fit...

 

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No ****.

Don't discuss stupid **** people.. it's not good on your gears. Even if it's not grinding, it's causing wear.. which will decrease transmission longevity.

It wears down more than just a synchro.

Learn to drive stick properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea its stupid **** when your clutch cable snaps and you need to drive your car.. you are right man... good job bein the cyber tuff guy who sorts everything out... rofl .... hahaha


maybe its you who needs a lesson in stick...

oh but ur sig explains wy you had to post that....

but add a word to it, ignorant
"I am not mean. I'm just blunt or cocky. "



Modified by thatbluecrx at 9:41 AM 3/21/2005

 

i rev to 2k and let off the clutch to start rolling... is that bad??????

 

Please, for the sake of all that's good in this world, learn how to heel/toe downshift.

 

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work on it, the less clutch you are reving on the longer it will last...

before you start giving it gas make sure your already slightly engaging the clutch

 

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yea its stupid **** when your clutch cable snaps and you need to drive your car.. you are right man... good job bein the cyber tuff guy who sorts everything out... rofl .... hahaha


maybe its you who needs a lesson in stick...

oh but ur sig explains wy you had to post that....

but add a word to it, ignorant
"I am not mean. I'm just blunt or cocky. "

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Obviously my post was for people who have operating clutches, dipshit.

Way to get me on a technicality! I gotta say, I didn't see it coming...

I guess I should have said:

"Learn to drive stick improperly, JUST IN CASE your clutch cable breaks!"

 

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Obviously my post was for people who have operating clutches, dipshit.

Way to get me on a technicality! I gotta say, I didn't see it coming...

I guess I should have said:

"Learn to drive stick improperly, JUST IN CASE your clutch cable breaks!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously your post wasnt for anybody except yourself.

Someone asked how it can be done, I answered how to do it... and you bust in saying we are discussing stupid ****... no reason to get on someones back for trying to learn....


and there are MANY OTHER symptoms (as you know) that can leave u straneded cause of a non working clutch

 

God, you are an idiot. Please research how transmissions work before you came here and try to sound like you actually know what you are talking about. Just research, then come back here. Thanks. Also, to anyone else that is paying attention and isn't a complete MORON like this douchebag:

It is possible to shift without disengaging the clutch. If you happen to hear any grinding sounds, it is not your gears. It is the synchros in your transmission. See, the actual GEARS have flat teeth on them. In between these gears are little "helper" gears called synchros that smooth out the transition from one gear to another. Before synchros were being used, we had to use a technique called "Double Clutching" Basically, if you were in first gear and accelerating, you would have to disengage the clutch, pull the shifter out of 1st gear, into Neutral, rev-match the trans speed with the engine speed, then shift into 2nd gear and engage the clutch again going into 2nd. This is called double clutching because there are 2 sequences of engaging and disengaging the clutch. If you want to be able to shift without the clutch at all then in any gear, while accelerating, let off the throttle, bring the RPMs up a bit, and let the tach drop while applying pressure to the next gear and you will FEEL where the trans speed and the engine speed MATCH and it will slip into the next gear. There is no advantage to doing this in fact it is even SLOWER than just using the clutch to do the dirty work for you. So if you ever hear someone say they are double clutching or anything of the sort (Like in fast and the furious) you now know what it really means and that Vin Diesel is just a complete moron.

 

Well I don't think it was Vin Diesel's fault, but that's a non-issue.

Good info in this thread...perhaps I should practice driving a bit more.

And why did Kendall mention Heel-Toe? I thought that was just for braking/downshifting; I figure in daily driving we have to get a feel for rev-matching for the downshift.

The strange part is...I'm fairly well-coordinated so I can pull these moves, but I don't have practice street-driving so...this was a helpful thread.

 

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Obviously your post wasnt for anybody except yourself.

Someone asked how it can be done, I answered how to do it... and you bust in saying we are discussing stupid ****... no reason to get on someones back for trying to learn....


and there are MANY OTHER symptoms (as you know) that can leave u straneded cause of a non working clutch</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bug into your 'driving stick 101' class, with optional 'rev matching for morons who shouldn't be driving with a shot clutch or snapped cable 102' course.

You're honestly just contributing to stupidity.

You've come into the thread presuming to be some genius on driving a stick, yet you've never worked with transmissions before. Assuming that from your statement of: "but i've been warmed it might be harmful to your syncros".

On a side note, there are many threads on this type of stuff in the archives. If you want to be helpfull next time (without coming off as an uneducated oblivious schmuck attempting to make himself look smart by discussing irrelevant information), then I suggest you do some more research for your own sake, and learn to point people in the right direction instead of telling people how to **** their transmissions up.

 

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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bug into your 'driving stick 101' class, with optional 'rev matching for morons who shouldn't be driving with a shot clutch or snapped cable 102' course.

You're honestly just contributing to stupidity.

You've come into the thread presuming to be some genius on driving a stick, yet you've never worked with transmissions before. Assuming that from your statement of: "but i've been warmed it might be harmful to your syncros".

On a side note, there are many threads on this type of stuff in the archives. If you want to be helpfull next time (without coming off as an uneducated oblivious schmuck attempting to make himself look smart by discussing irrelevant information), then I suggest you do some more research for your own sake, and learn to point people in the right direction instead of telling people how to **** their transmissions up.</TD></TR></TABLE>


dude i didnt want to make this an argument but obviously its needed to shut you up.....YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT NOBODY ELSE HERE IS, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH A PROBLEM, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE THREAD STAY THE **** OUT OF IT.


man im 20 years old, i worked on a d series tranny that was blows and tossed some si internals into it, and bam had a bran new tranny, am i an expert..? no.. but why the **** do i need to be an expert to share some of my wisdom..


and HELL YEA, I drive stick 10x better then you can ever attempt... cmon i cant wait to hear your pathetic "Im older and more experianced" responses... GET OVER IT... THIS INFO IS HELPING PEOPLE


lol... sigh.... its just like many professional race car drivers..... they can all shift right???? well they cant all rip apart a tranny.

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not one of your posts were on topic... more of trying to impress someone.. but who? rofl uneducated oblivious schmuck... you must have had a rough child hood man to hate like that

 

heres another tip but hopefully it wont be overseen by mr nissan rb over there
and yes.. I KNOW, MANY PEOPLE KNOW THIS.. but not ALL, so I dont want to hear it from thoes except people that it helped!

lets say you are cruising along in 5th and a light turns red infront of you and you are coming to a stop, wether you fully downshift or not(come off the clutch in the gear), it helps to run through the pattern while slowing down, as in, clutch 4,3,2 dont bother 1 because when you are rolling its a bit stiffer to get into, this will make 1st gear smoother to get into when at a full stop

its just like ALWAYS... when going into reverse... go up and over to 1st, then down and back to reverse... it will stop reverse from grinding..


just throwing random aspecs in.. many people were taught by themselfs and lose out on ever knowing some tricks