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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Ok I put a B16A1 in my 94 civic coupe...it was running really well for 1 week straight. Then, all of a sudden the car started to bog out at any rpm...when i tried to give it gas it would not rev...it would bog out more...then my starter went out and I could not even crank it over. I had to push start it and when i did i t would bog out and I could not drive it...sometimes it would come back to normal idle but when you tried to give it gas to drive away it would sputter then bog out. Today I got my starter new. They fully tested it before I left and works fine. I changed the cap and rotor and put an after market coil with msd cap. Also changed the plugs and wires. I am getting fuel and pulse. I did a cel check and no check engine...but my car won't turn over at all...it will not crank...battery is good...anyone know what this could be?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Ignition switch? Internal damage?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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Na it can't be that because my dash lights come on and I can push start the car but it stays on for a few seconds then it bogs and dies out...and the whole motor trembles like its catching a seizure...come on someone has to be good at this...i know im not...im all outta ideas
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Default Re: B16 Won't turn over (incognitoracerr)

Bypass your ignition switch with a push-button switch (you can get them at any parts store). Run it from the battery to the battery terminal on the starter solenoid and push the button. The solenoid should click, and the engine should crank. Make sure your battery connectons are tight. The only reasons that an engine would not turn over are: bad battery, bad wiring, bad ignition switch, bad solenoid, bad starter motor, or seized engine.

When you turn the key to start, do you hear a click from the starter solenoid?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Patch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> When you turn the key to start, do you hear a click from the starter solenoid?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I do hear a click...when i push start it it comes on but it bogs on idle at 0 rpm then it dies out after a few seconds...you can smell pure fuel out of the exhaust and when i pull out my spark plugs they are flooded and there is smoke coming out of the spark plug tubing...do you think i may be getting too much fuel all of a sudden that killing the spark and the car won't idle?..if so how come this never happened before?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Not sure, but you need to address the cranking problem first. Do the things I told you above. Once your engine cranks, then the running problems can be addressed.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Patch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure, but you need to address the cranking problem first. Do the things I told you above. Once your engine cranks, then the running problems can be addressed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok koo...i will try to see why it won't crank first...i guess i have two major problems to work out...i'll let everyone know how it turns out...any other help is still appreciated..thanks
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 06:23 AM
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Okguys as we speak the starter is getting replaced. I discovered something funny. Last night I pushed started the car again and it bogged and died out as usual butttt before it did you can smell pure gas fumes coming out of the exhaust and the car made a big fireball pop. Now this morning i go to take the starter out and I realized that exhaust chamber number one (only number 1) was black. So I take the headers off and look at every other chamber or ports or whatever you call it and all of them are spick and span clean (nice porting job by the way...lol) but there is like a ring of black stuff around number 1. I looked at it closely to see if it was dryed up oil but it wasn't. It looks more like spray paint. Do you think its gas mixed up with dirt? Do you think there is a clog in the headers and thats why it bogs out? I have a cat that was fully ripped out of everything 5 months ago...it has nothing inside...is it possible that it could of clogged back up even if there is nothing there to make it clog up like that honey comb stuff? That black dtuff on it is not an oil leak because there would be oil in the port and its nice and clean....i have not started it yet because open headers to check because i am waiting for a starter and i can't push start it alone because my drive way is going in downhill...let me know what you guys think please
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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How about a stuck-open injector? Make #1 run really rich, that would explain the soot. That wouldn't explain the bad starter, but that's probably unrelated anyway.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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check your electrical connections at your distributor,coil and alternator...check your timing..change your fuel filter...get ngk or denso spark plugs..good luck
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about a stuck-open injector? Make #1 run really rich, that would explain the soot. That wouldn't explain the bad starter, but that's probably unrelated anyway.
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test your injectors
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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HEY I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT...the starter has no good ground...i fixed that...the car now turns over...but it won't crank and thats because my DISTRIBUTOR WENT BAD...hahahaha...thanks guys for all the help and support...now does anyone have an OBD-1 GSR DISTRIBUTOR???
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