******* hell. i lied. im not going h22. its a waste, i dont feel like cutting up my chassis just to get things like shifter cables working.... it seems like too much of a hassle, already ontop of the axles breaking and the low oil pan.

anyway-

i think im gonna go b16 or b18. for $3000... what can i do??
since this is going in either an S or SI del sol, 3000 dollars needs to include- mounts, radiator, vafc, etc. every little part.

im open to alot of ideas... b16/gsr hybrids, high compression, whatever.

TIA.

 

ttt

 

i would go with a b18, becuase of the torue and the option to go with an ls/vtec later.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by torr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would go with a b18, becuase of the torue and the option to go with an ls/vtec later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
good point but isnt the ls slower off the bat?
also, this may seem silly, but do they make a red crinklecoat valvecover for it?

 

i would go b18c1, that little bit of extra torque will help you in the long run because the sol is a heavier car than most people think. with a fairly simple turbo setup 300 whp is not that hard to attain. The ls/vtec is nice for the track but is kind of a handful for a daily driver. To me the b18c1 is just the best all around platform you can do almost anything with it, this is why i one in my sol.

what year? and what model s or si? the vtec motors are almost a direct drop in with the si, the s requires more wiring.

 

im planning on picking up an SI.. which will have all the vtec and whatnot..

so you guys reccomend a b18c1 (ls) and then either swap on a vtec head or a turbo kit down the road?

sounds good to me.

only thing.. do they make a red valve cover for the ls?

 

Alright first, the B18C1 is a GSR engine, not an LS engine. Second, you can get red valve covers for the LS engine off of ebay, but they say DOHC VTEC and would thus make you a ricer.

Now to the discussion at hand. For cheap speed, I'd get an LS motor (B18B1) and a turbo. For an all motor setup, I'd start with the B18C1 and go from there.

But if I were doing this, I'd just get a Del Sol VTEC which already has a B16 in it, and then go LS/VTEC.

 

i dont think i could pull off a ls turbo for my budget.

i think i could barely pull off a ls vtec for my budget.

i dont want to swap in a ls and call it a day though... i rather swap in a b16 and have the vtec.

 

bump.

 

For $3000 you can get an LS and be well on your way to a turbo setup. If you aren't willing to do this, then I think your best bet would be a second gen B16A.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Grizzly Adams &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For $3000 you can get an LS and be well on your way to a turbo setup. If you aren't willing to do this, then I think your best bet would be a second gen B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>

any reccomended supporting mods for the b16?

 

While doing the swap, I'd go ahead and put in a good header and intake. Personally I'd put in some CTR cams and run the DIY ITB setup. It all comes down to what goals you have.

 

diy itb???

its gonna be a daily driver... i like... or better yet... i love the idea of itb, but can i use a filter on each one? or what?


Modified by jbell at 4:49 AM 3/7/2004

 

skip the vafc...its a waste of time...

 

why do you say that?

 

hrm. im thinking-

b16, adjustable cam gears, performance cams, good header, and itb's

can you guys reccomend some good "bang for the buck" parts- as in cheap gears, cams and itb's that are inexpensive, but offer good performance. i know there is a middle range that isn't too expensive, and aren't pieces of crap.

as for the itb's... can i put filters on each of the pipes? i love the idea of having them on a daily driver... but dont want to risk sucking up... everything.

 

dont jumpon the bandwagon ITB boat with that low comp. untuned low budget motor.

 

what is considered low compression?

oh, it will be tuned.

 

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