Hey guys, Im having a problem with my new Wavetrac LSD. I went to pull the passenger side axle out and its STUCK. I hve spoken to the guys at the company numerous times and no luck. I have tried everything. Anyone else have experience with this yet and any tips?

 

This is killing me!

 

i hade this happen before and the only thing i got to work was i bolted a long chain to the inner cv joint then i used the chain like a whip to get it out

 

So you have the wavetrac also? And i dont get the whole chain/whip thing could you explain better?

 

have you ever tried to un kink a garden hose you know how you whip it do the same with the chain

 

This is bringing back memories of the early versions of the OBX lsd:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1249085

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1206925

Check those old threads for potentially any tips. Some people had to remove the transmission with axle still attached and use a press to actually get it out. Good luck.

 

That chain thing sounds real wierd...like it wouldnt pull hard enough...you had a wavetrac not an obx right?

Theres no way to use a press or anything from the other side...the design is not straight through, its blocked off between axles inside the diff...


Anyone with experience with this and a wavetrac?

 

try taking out the other axle and taking a screwdriver to center up the snap ring on the axle and then try again...chances are your snap ring is getting hung up in the diff.

 

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agreed. pull the other axle and push the stuck one out

 

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did you guys miss this?

and the wavetrack is so new i doubt if many people have even run them

 

yes, i did miss that. my bad. the only other thing i know of is a pry bar on both sides of the axle. or maybe if you can rig something to the effect of a slide hammer.

 

Yeah, the wavetrac is definitely new, but still at least 6 months old, so some one has had to encounter this...

Theres no room for two pry bars and Ive tried slamming it with one, no luck andim still stuck...

 

I cant fit a pry bar on both sides...even if so, I tried one and with great force to no luck.

You mentioned a slide hammer, how much of a violent force would this create, and how could i rig it up? I think its going to have to take an EXTREMELY hard hit. Im thinking the C clip will have to break for this to work....

 

well, ive used a slide hammer on 94-97 accords to remove the rotors, and they take a lot of force. the reason i recommend 2 prybars is because on a lot of the toyota axles at my work, one prybar doesnt work so well because all of the pressure is applied at one point, but if you use 2, you get an even amount of force on both sides of the axle. im not sure how the slide hammer would work though, being that there is nothing to bolt it to.

 

Well, if you lok at the area around the axle, there really isnt room for two prybars, just one. I think two MIGHT help if it was possible, but I put some massive force on with one and it still didnt break the clip or anything

 

i see what ur sayin, but when you only pry from one side, youre kinda tweaking the axle up, but if you can even get a smaller pry bar on the topside, youve got a better chance of centering the ring up, i mean hell, its gotta be worth a try. i wouldnt wanna pull the tranny for something like this, but if this isnt working, it may be your only other option. why is the diff blocked up in the middle anyways, can you post pics maybe?

and i doubt you'll be able to break the clip...it will more than likely bend into an awkward position, which might've already happened.

 

I actually have a pic from the install showing what I mean, Ill post now. But as for prying, i did try to center with two pry bars with a smaller on top, it didnt work, it just wasnt optimal but I cant get this damn thing off. Heres a pic, and hopefully someone who has dealt with this can maybe chime in. To all others, I greatly appreciate the help so far.

 

Have you tried using one of these?

Bearing separator
http://www.hge.co.za/AP%20Tool...9.jpg
http://www.hge.co.za/AP%20Tools/Da4006.jpg

Your local tool rental/Autozone will have them. You wll probably need the biggest one.

 

with the way the trans case is shaped going over the axle, i doubt youll be able to get those tools to fit between the axle and case. maybe a longer pry bar or a bar on the pry bar (for more leverage) is a possible solution? good luck though, i know how these little routine things gone wrong can frustrate the hell out of ya.

 

air hammer!!!

 

Thank you, but yeah, i can see how those tools wont fit because of the way the trans case is shaped. A longer pry bar may just break the trans case before the axle pops out, no? And an air hammer, same thing, would I even have enough room to hit it around the trans case? Im asking in advance because i dont own one and dont want to buyt for no reason lol.

 

I had a similar issue with trying to remove a driver side axle from a kaaz diff. I was unable to remove the axle. To finally remove it I used a half inch drive exstention bar and a hammer through the other side of the diff. I took huge amount of force to get the axle to pop out. It turned out that a peice of the diff had broken off and fallen onto the shaft of the axle. With such a tight space it embeded it self in the shaft of the axle. To reinstall the axle I had to buff out the burr on the axle and use a sanding wheel on the inside of the diff where the axle gets seated.

 

Yeah unfortunately if you read back youll see that I cant drive it through the other side.

 

is that a blockage, or is it the axle on the other side...im not sure what the inner joint end looks like.

 

That is blockage...

And an update...ITS OUT!!! What a damn grueling experience. What happened is, some of my methods caused me to eventually break the ring holding the boot, and eventually the axle just came apart, leaving the end. So, I go and use my foot on a pry bar, and slam the axle end with a hammer, and BOOM, right out. Im assuming the axle coming apart caused it to sit perfectly straight because all the weight was taken off, and slamming it caused the pin to line right up. Trust me, people, this was not luck, I tried for hours on end, but hey, its out right.

A HUGE thank you to all who tried to help, much appreciated! I guess we can use this experience for all who may ever have the same