i was wondering which is better in the way of clutches.. one that has more closer teeth on the pressure plate like thsi one:



or one with less bigger ones more twards the outside like this one:



i would think its the one with more but im not shure why..

can somone explane..

thanks larry.


[edit] i know im really talking about pressure plate so dont ask why i titled it about your clutch..


[Modified by 4gsicivichatch, 12:17 AM 2/20/2003]

 

anyone?

 

6 Puck.

 

i have no knowledge on clutches and was wondering why you suggested the 6 puck?

 

Grabs harder, handles more HP. If you don't have a high performance motor, the disc clutch is fine.

 

also disipates heat better than a disk.. but back to my question above....

anyone have an awnser?

 

Im gonna guess the top one is kevlar and the bottom is a 6puck cerametallic?

The kevlar should last forever and have smoother engagement, the 6puck should grip like no tomorrow but be harsh for daily driving plus it doesnt appear to be spring loaded.

someone correct me if im wrong.


[Modified by tilt, 9:48 AM 2/20/2003]

 

lol not to sound like a dick but that's not my question at all

i asked about the pressure plate not the clutch i know what makes a friction clutch better than a disk clutch my question is about the pressure plate look at each there alot diff.

 

the yellow pressure plate will squeeze harder than the other.

 

ok and when you say it will
how do you figure that when there are far more teeth at a closer center of gravity on the balck pressure plate???? how could it possably sweeze harder??

 

more isn't always better. the longer fingers on the diaphragm spring on the yellow version give the pressure plate more leverage to squeeze the clutch more firmly to the flywheel. edit: this is isn't the only variable to the spring...

this is also why the clutch pedal can get heavier when installing high performance clutches/pressure plates.


[Modified by e36s52, 8:11 PM 2/23/2003]

 

you ever look at the bottom of that first pressure plate? has more leverage than the wellow one you ovb dont have a clue what your talking about

edit: when i say leverage i meen the teeth extend out (twards the outer edge of the pressure plate) just as much if not further than the teeth on the yellow pressure plate

so yeah es6s52 im sayin your full of ****


[Modified by 4gsicivichatch, 10:53 AM 2/24/2003]

 

full of ****, perhaps, but the fact remains that the yellow pressure plate will apply more clamping force to the clutch disc than the other. the entire geometry of the spring affects this: where it pivots, what materials it's made of, the dimensions and layout of the spring.

the length of the fingers on the underside of the plate is not the only variable to determining the clamping force of the plate.

the practical answer to your first question is that the yellow plate will clamp harder. that's the advantage. if you don't like my explanation for why that is so, so be it, but it appears you're taking too simple a view of the working of the plate.

 

you are totally wrong and i dissagree with you totally have you ever had them side by side and compaired them???

obv not because you would see how you are wrong

 

you present such a clear and compelling argument that i have no rebuttal...

if you already knew the answer, then why ask? please tell me how it works and how those parts are different so that i may further my own understanding.

 

get a puck for a daily driver and you will regret it.

 

ok ill post pic's of each and explain well i was makeing shure i was right and this is "tech" dosnt seem like anyone knows about pressure plates to me

but i will post pic's and go more into detail somtime next week

 

seems like that includes you, too. not very cool that you tell me i'm full of chit, but offer no counter to my explanation.

"you're totally wrong" isn't very constructive, nor does it help anyone who would like to learn.

sorry to drag out this useless thread...