Just wanted to say how unhappy i am that there is not more of a demand/availability for a 6speed option for the b series. I personally do not have one but i damn sure would love to. The ability to rev to 9 or 10k and then throw unlimited gearing options at it, good god it would be heaven!!! I am not willing to pay the large amounts of money it would take to make this happen, but if there were a cheaper/easier option, id do it in a heartbeat. Hopefully we can start enough noise and get the right bug in the right persons ear to at least see the prospect of the idea in the near future. That would be better than nothing! Sorry just a crazy b series lover.

 

it would be nice... but they came out with K series motors, they are better than b's and have 6 speeds!!! ;-)

 

Oh man something like this came out some years back like..........2002 I think........hmmm if only I knew the name...................hmmmm..........oh yea a K20 engine!!

 

If I remember correctly Quaife made a 6 speed gearbox for b-series but it cost like $10,000. Not worth it as far as I'm concerned. You could definately go K for cheaper than that. And unfortnately there's no way to make an adapter of any kind b/c of the different rotating directions... Just go K.

 

dont get me wrong i love the k and, i am most likely gonna end up with one at some point anyways, i just think the characteristics of the b combined with a 6spd would be much more entertaining than the lower revving k. I also might just be spoiled with my 9800 or so, on accident of course . The k does well at lower levels of tuning but once you get in the 400 plus range, is the margin of difference really that large. They just seem to be a better starting point. I gotta stop ranting. Just thought this would be a good topic. Yes you can buy a sequential 6spd for the b and yes it is like 10grand!

 

k20's are no lower revving than any B series motor. You need to do some more research and maybe drive a K20 or two

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spectacle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k20's are no lower revving than any B series motor. You need to do some more research and maybe drive a K20 or two</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

 

why do people always jump out there like they are so much smarter than anyone. I have driven k's and i have driven b's. I do know a thing or 2 about cars seeing as how ive been a mechanic all my life. Ive learned a little here and there about a lot of stuff. I only admire the k for its ease of making it to the 300whp mark n/a of course! and the fact that it DOES have a 6spd. As far as revving goes the k just cant compare. I would like to see how many k motors have revved to 10k or even 9500 without being on the very limit of everything! Oh yeah and dont include any ti. rods for 1500$ either. I had my stock bottom type-r weakly b running 9600 with just better valvetrain components. In the lane next to me my buddy with his turbo k just got scared at about 9. to you. Give me reasonable proof.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do people always jump out there like they are so much smarter than anyone. I have driven k's and i have driven b's. I do know a thing or 2 about cars seeing as how ive been a mechanic all my life. Ive learned a little here and there about a lot of stuff. I only admire the k for its ease of making it to the 300whp mark n/a of course! and the fact that it DOES have a 6spd. As far as revving goes the k just cant compare. I would like to see how many k motors have revved to 10k or even 9500 without being on the very limit of everything! Oh yeah and dont include any ti. rods for 1500$ either. I had my stock bottom type-r weakly b running 9600 with just better valvetrain components. In the lane next to me my buddy with his turbo k just got scared at about 9. to you. Give me reasonable proof.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I'm speechless.

 

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I'm speechless. </TD></TR></TABLE>same here....

 

and can we put this back on topic now instead of making a b vs. k debate. Bench racing k nut riders dont put any info down that doesnt have anything to do with the topic. And remember drunk typing is a bad idea (somebody tell me about it)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and can we put this back on topic now instead of making a b vs. k debate. Bench racing k nut riders dont put any info down that doesnt have anything to do with the topic. And remember drunk typing is a bad idea (somebody tell me about it)</TD></TR></TABLE>
quiafe (sp)? makes a 6 speed for b series, if i rmember its a dog leg style which isnt streetable by any means and it costs like 10 g. okay? QYB(quit yo' bitchin)

 

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You're just not cool if you cant rev to 10 grand man

 

i can only rev to 7200, guess im not cool^^

 

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Sorry bud, i don't make the rules, but apparently peak HP numbers and 5 digit revs are more important than a reliable engine with a use-able powerband.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I gotta stop ranting. Just thought this would be a good topic. Yes you can buy a sequential 6spd for the b and yes it is like 10grand! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well... that's what it'll take to get a 6-speed for a B. An independent company. And now you bitch because it's $10,000? Do you understand supply and demand and the research/development cost that would go into such a thing? You can easily see why this just isn't a cost efficient way. So just go with a K. Quit bitching about your revving and realize that B's are a dying breed. Yes... we all love them. Most of us own them and enjoy them daily. And most of us would still rather have a K.

 

mmm dogbox, if i was rich i would soo have a dogbox in my daily driver, i wouldent give a mad ***! waaaa.. baa!! waaaaa.. bahhh! a dog box shifting is teh greatest sound/feeling ever!

 

In regards to high rpm K20's http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10000

read the whole thing- lots of info/ good discussions.

 

Thanks for good info. I know about the few 10grand seq. 6 speeds and whatnot for the b. I just thought for some stupid reason we could have a bunch of b diehards on here go crazy with a discussion on how great a semi-economical 6spd. would be. Apparently, since i havent just given up completely on thinking about bettering the b and just jumped on the k bandwagon, im the biggest retard on h-t. Im going with the guy who says i am all about 5 digit revs and peak power, because he sounds like he knows more about me than i do. Thats exactly what i was going for when i rebuilt my engine! to that guy. 140tq at 4k and bumps a little to 150 and stays until 9600 (on stock 81mm bore mind you). My super peak hp is an astonising 200! wooooo! Bite ***** fella, i built my b to emulate a k as much as i could. I just wanna see more people keep an interest and help it grow. The b might be a dying breed due to not being in factory cars anymore, but it was prob. the most groundbreaking engine to ever leave the far side of the world. The aftermarket has already stepped up and brought replacement heads and blocks for the b so i dont think its going anywhere. if anything its still growing. How many people still use small block chevrolet engines that originated in the 50s? Are they still in production cars? nope, but they still hold their own in every field of auto sports. Just getting carried away again.
I do still love the k just as much as the next and will have one where my b is now. Im not just gonna abandon ship though just move it to a different car. If your gonna look at it like that why not just give up on hondas too? Just go buy an evo because the have a turbo and a 6spd and all wheel drive. They can run 12's like its nothing and so on and so forth..... its love and dedication that got us where we are. Keep it real

 

you built your b to emulate a k?

that makes no sense.

 

i wonder if you could modify and mate a K 6sp tranny to a b series engine?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HT Chaplain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wonder if you could modify and mate a K 6sp tranny to a b series engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well... the engines spin the opposite way for the trannies. So you'd have one forward gear and one reverse I think.

 

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Well... the engines spin the opposite way for the trannies. So you'd have one forward gear and one reverse I think. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you'd have one forward gear(reverse) and six reverse gears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do people always jump out there like they are so much smarter than anyone. I have driven k's and i have driven b's. I do know a thing or 2 about cars seeing as how ive been a mechanic all my life. Ive learned a little here and there about a lot of stuff. I only admire the k for its ease of making it to the 300whp mark n/a of course! and the fact that it DOES have a 6spd. As far as revving goes the k just cant compare. I would like to see how many k motors have revved to 10k or even 9500 without being on the very limit of everything! Oh yeah and dont include any ti. rods for 1500$ either. I had my stock bottom type-r weakly b running 9600 with just better valvetrain components. In the lane next to me my buddy with his turbo k just got scared at about 9. to you. Give me reasonable proof.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh damn I just got whiplash from reading that.

 

all that is a waste of time, 6 gears aren't needed.

once you get a k20r 6speed trans where it needs to be, 1st gear becomes too short and worthless.


look at the quaife close ratio b16 option and see what quaife decided. taller 1st gear.

more info can be taken from my "taller d-series 1st gear" stickied thread