I am planing my next build, working suspension right now. I was looking into SPC and seen Toe Adjuster. Now I am probably going to be droping the car about two inches. My question is, are the Toe adjusters really Necessary? If so which do you recommend?

I was looking at these at summit racing.

http://store.summitracing.com/...0+150+

SPC Toe Adjusters

Also it says they are recommended with SPC LCAs, I was planing on using Skunk2 LCAs.

 

Yes those would be good to have, as it allows much more fine tuning of the rear toe (adjusts by turning the turnbuckle, like the front tie rods, as opposed to just prying on the trailing arm). It will also help reduce the big trailing arm bushing from binding as much, since the trailing arm bushing has to flex in order to adjust toe with the stock pieces.

 

Thank you for the answer, exactly what I was looking for. Now should I go with what they recommend using the SPC LCAs or would the Skunk2s be fine?

 

toe adjuster has no direct connection with the LCA's. You could use stock LCA's or aftermarket, shouldn't matter. They're just trying to get you to buy more of their stuff, of course.

 

I figured that, but wasn't 100% sure if they had a different design or not.


Thanks for your help, I have completed my wish list now.

 

i wouldnt get a toe adjuster.

rear toe is already adjustable from factory. infinately so. its just a bit more difficult to adjust since its a slot. but its possible. any alignment shop can deal with it. they do it all the time.


secondly, changing the length of that arm affects the toe curve. i wouldnt mess with it unless you were trying to really re-engineer your suspension.

 

I may be wrong with this... but just because rear toe is adjustable from the factory doesnt mean that it is adjustable with a lowered car. Lowering a vehicle makes the toe and camber of a vehicle off, and possibly out of range of what factory adjustments can be made. Moreover, you could have more toe in/out than the factory adjustments can allow you to fix.

Just an opinion.... I wont find out about my toe for another 2 weeks. Being broke and needing new struts has kept me from an alignment.

 

i have about 1.8 degrees of negative toe on the rear of my civic and the toe is still able to be adjusted into spec...sumtimes u may not get enuff adjustment if sumthings bent or sumthin like that...alt of times also the stock rear toe adjusters get frozen...typical honda problem...if u get the toe adjusters u wont have to worry about this anymore..but they're not necessary..but u shoud def luk into a camber kit...

 

i am an alignment tech for sears so i see these frozen 14mm bolts for the toe adjusters all the time...even the right side on my cars frozen...lol

 

maybe consider these


http://www.ksportusa.com/products/toekit.html

 

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It says toe kits, but the picture looks like rear camber adjustors, and it even says camber adjustment in the description.

 

As far as the frozen bolts are concerned, you will still have to deal with this problem when it comes time to install the adjustable compensator arm (toe adjuster). It would be cheaper and better from a "geometry" standpoint to just reuse the stock parts and coat the bolts with anti-seize. This will insure you won't have the "frozen bolt" problem again, and you wont' have to worry about the geometry changes that Tyson mentioned...

Think about it. You always have to adjust one side different from the other to get both rear tires into spec. This means you would have one compensator arm that is longer than the other. Since the comp arm controls dynamic toe during cornering, acceleration & braking, it is going to be very important that both sides act the same....

 

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secondly, changing the length of that arm affects the toe curve. i wouldnt mess with it unless you were trying to really re-engineer your suspension.

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You know, I never thought about this aspect of the toe link. I am glad I've stuck with a stock length part!