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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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I have a 92 civic hatchback with crap suspension (bought that way) and the setup im looking to buy is the tokico illumina shock/struts and the teien s tech springs i believe its around a 1.7-1.8 in drop i just want to know if thats a good set up and if a camber kit would be required any help apreciated thanks
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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anyone??
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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s-techs w/illuminas should serve you well...

As for the camber kit, its up to you. There's alot of debate on this topic so search. I prefer running a front camber kit and doing the rear washer trick.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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ok thanks yea i want a camber but im wondering if its necesary for this set up because im workin on a budget
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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I rode on s-techs for 2 years with no camber kit, and eventually my tires began to show some inner wear. I am pretty sure you will be fine man, especially since you are getting some pretty stiff shocks already, that aren't going to sag like the OEM ones I was runnin for 2 years.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SNooPY-JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 92 civic hatchback with crap suspension (bought that way) and the setup im looking to buy is the tokico illumina shock/struts and the teien s tech springs i believe its around a 1.7-1.8 in drop i just want to know if thats a good set up and if a camber kit would be required any help apreciated thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds great.

I wouldn't bother with a camber adjuster kit, however you MUST have the toe reset as close to 0.00 as possible on an alignment rack after changing the ride height to avoid uneven tire wear.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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aight thanks alot for the help yea im gona make sure to get a good alighnment after i put them on
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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ok well im about to buy my setup this weekend and was wondering if its worth it to get the energy suspension bushing kit its around 100-150 dollars does anyone know if its worth it or has anyone used them b4
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 04:17 AM
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I wouldn't bother. A bushing kit opens up a whole new can of worms.

If you have any worn or broken bushings, just replace those ones with new OE rubber bushings.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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oo really i thought it would make a big difference
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SNooPY-JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oo really i thought it would make a big difference</TD></TR></TABLE>
It can, but it depends. Polyurethane doesn't make enough of an improvement in performance over new rubber for me to justify the PITA installation of a complete kit or the rougher ride quality. In addition, some bushings should not be replaced with poly because they require a greater range of movement than poly allows - for example, the rear trailing arm bushings and the front damper compliance bushings.

Some people feel it's worth it. I personally don't. The choice is up to you.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It can, but it depends. Polyurethane doesn't make enough of an improvement in performance over new rubber for me to justify the PITA installation of a complete kit or the rougher ride quality. In addition, some bushings should not be replaced with poly because they require a greater range of movement than poly allows - for example, the rear trailing arm bushings and the front damper compliance bushings.

Some people feel it's worth it. I personally don't. The choice is up to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Speaking of replacing bushings...
Are there any hard & fast rules regarding replacement?
I was wondering about replacing some on my car.

A 1990 CRX Si, (I am the original owner, so I know what has and has not been done to it). It has 212K miles on it, and it's my DD. I am about to replace the rusted/broken front springs with H&R OE's and Tokico Illuminas. Because comfort and adjustibilty is more important to me than looks.

Are there any bushings that should be replaced period, as a matter of course, just due to the high mileage as preventative maintenance? Or should I not even worry about replacing any of the bushings unless they are obviously damaged, broken, or degraded?
Thanks.
sorry for the jack.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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hahaha its all good i was about to ask pretty much the same question and if i dont get the poly ones and go with new OEM ones would they have them at like a napa, autozone, checkers stores or would i have to get them directly from honda?
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