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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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basically i want to lower my 90 civic 4dr. i want to give it a 2in drop but don't know what setup to get. the car is my dd so i want the ride quality to be as comfortable as possible any inputs would be appreciated
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Look into H&R Sport springs with Tokico Illumina dampers.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Look into the <U>BIG RED SEARCH BUTTON IN THE expletiveIN UPPER RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.</U>
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look into H&R Sport springs with Tokico Illumina dampers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You read my mind! +1 on the H&R Sports.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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ANY drop in ride height with exclusion of koni's yellows will sacrifice ride quality expecially if you live where there are rough streets. When you drop the chasis closer to the ground you lose suspension travel effectivly making it a more bone jaring ride. I live with rought streets and im at stock height, i wouldn't dare drop my car down any unless i had true coilovers that offer spring pre-load, only those will ride comfortably because your not really shortening the ride travel.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95vxtealhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANY drop in ride height with exclusion of koni's yellows will sacrifice ride quality expecially if you live where there are rough streets. When you drop the chasis closer to the ground you lose suspension travel effectivly making it a more bone jaring ride. I live with rought streets and im at stock height, i wouldn't dare drop my car down any unless i had true coilovers that offer spring pre-load, only those will ride comfortably because your not really shortening the ride travel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, the ride quality will only change from lowering the car if you lower so far that things start bottoming out, such as the piston bottoming out in the shock, upper control arm hits the shock tower, springs coil bind during compression, tire hits the fender. Simply reducing the shock travel will not change ride quality.

There's no such thing as "true" coilovers, because coilovers can be defined in a few different ways. Any threaded body shock allows for spring preload, and pre-load isn't what you want to be adjusting if you want to improve ride quality or retain shock travel. It is an adjustable lower mount that allows you to retain shock travel while lowering the car. Koni's do not feature an adjustable lower mount, so lowering the car on Koni's means reducing shock travel.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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which shocks are better illuminas or the agx and how many of you run h&r sport springs to get some feedback on this spring
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef 4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which shocks are better illuminas or the agx and how many of you run h&r sport springs to get some feedback on this spring</TD></TR></TABLE>

illuminas
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually, the ride quality will only change from lowering the car if you lower so far that things start bottoming out, such as the piston bottoming out in the shock, upper control arm hits the shock tower, springs coil bind during compression, tire hits the fender. Simply reducing the shock travel will not change ride quality.

There's no such thing as "true" coilovers, because coilovers can be defined in a few different ways. Any threaded body shock allows for spring preload, and pre-load isn't what you want to be adjusting if you want to improve ride quality or retain shock travel. It is an adjustable lower mount that allows you to retain shock travel while lowering the car. Koni's do not feature an adjustable lower mount, so lowering the car on Koni's means reducing shock travel. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the man is correct, custom shortened and re-valved koni shocks is the only way to go. Shocks are setup to your own requirements and specs for your car

or new skunk2 coilovers and pic performance


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