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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousJJE
I respectfully disagree. If you hit a rumble strip and get a wheel airborne (fairly common on track), and the spring becomes un-seated from the top hat, your car will not drive the same. If your spring is not touching your top hat at full droop, then you need helper springs for sure.

What length springs are leaving space at full droop? Those are 7" or 8"???
Lots of people run GC/Koni on the track, with uncaptured springs at full droop, without a problem.

Many times the sway bar can help keep the damper on the air-borne corner from extending too far.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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is the koni strut used for gc coilovers different in any way i have a set with h&r springs but wanted to upgrade to ground controls someone said there was a thinner koni for gc's
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 92whtgsr
is the koni strut used for gc coilovers different in any way i have a set with h&r springs but wanted to upgrade to ground controls someone said there was a thinner koni for gc's
yes, to use the ground controls you have to get the koni shocks specifically made for them.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Warhawk
yes, to use the ground controls you have to get the koni shocks specifically made for them.
There's Koni specific Ground Controls not different Konis. I also went from H&R springs to GCs.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Koni Ground Control install

Originally Posted by 92whtgsr
is the koni strut used for gc coilovers different in any way i have a set with h&r springs but wanted to upgrade to ground controls someone said there was a thinner koni for gc's
Nope

Originally Posted by Warhawk
yes, to use the ground controls you have to get the koni shocks specifically made for them.
Nope

I also went from H&R Sport to GC's. You just get the Koni-specific GC's which fit directly on the Koni snap ring. You do not use the Koni spring perches when you install the GC's, as shown in my pics above.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
You just get the Koni-specific GC's which fit directly on the Koni snap ring. You do not use the Koni spring perches when you install the GC's, as shown in my pics above.
Whoops got it backwards! thanks lol
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Did you replace the nyloc nuts you took off when you setup the shock and installed it on your car?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Did you replace the nyloc nuts you took off when you setup the shock and installed it on your car?
I don't remember any except on my GC top hats.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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dang im gonna make one of those ramps right now
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JaySauce
Did you replace the nyloc nuts you took off when you setup the shock and installed it on your car?
You mean the nut on the top of the shock piston? The Konis come with 2 thin jam nuts that lock together. Use those instead of the factory nylon-insert lock nut.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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i have GC sleeves on my stock suspension and are there any dampeners i can use, with the sleeves i have, without any modifications to the sleeves??
great write up too!!
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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quick question. im gonna get skunk2 sleeves on my stock shocks would i be able to get koni's for these or would they only fit with gc?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Question would you follow the same set up for Tokico Shocks?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tealchief
i have GC sleeves on my stock suspension and are there any dampeners i can use, with the sleeves i have, without any modifications to the sleeves??
great write up too!!
Bilstein Sport, Illuminas, or AGX shocks would all work.

Its the Koni Sport (Yellow) and Bilstein HD shocks that use a different GC mount.

Originally Posted by preetyboi06
Question would you follow the same set up for Tokico Shocks?
More or less. Only difference is that you put the sleeve on top of the lower spring mount. With the Konis, you leave the spring mount off and place the sleeve directly on the circlip.

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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Bilstein Sport or HD, Illuminas, or AGX shocks would all work.

Its only the Koni shocks that use a different GC mount, due to the Koni specific spring perch setup (the circlip).
Are you sure about the Bilsteins? Their site says +$40 just like the Konis so I'd expect them to be different.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Yeah I think Bilstein HD's require a GC-specific sleeve, also.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Yeah I think Bilstein HD's require a GC-specific sleeve, also.
Correct, we have a "Bilstein" adaptor that is pressed into a sleeve. Much like our koni system that does not have the Koni specified sleeves..
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Why do the dish washers have to face up? Does it matter?
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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I believe the edge of the dish would dig into the bushing and cut it over time. You want the flat surface in the center to give even contact without damaging the bushing.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Koni Ground Control install

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Why do the dish washers have to face up? Does it matter?
Because that's how they're designed?

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I believe the edge of the dish would dig into the bushing and cut it over time. You want the flat surface in the center to give even contact without damaging the bushing.
This is a logical answer. But yeah they face up because that's how they were designed to be oriented.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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its designed to slip just a bit to compensate for the change in angle across the stroke of the suspension.
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Can someone help me out with these instructions for the Koni's. Thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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The left-most end of that sheet shows the adjusting procedure for externally-adjustable Koni shocks, such as the yellow Koni Sport shocks. The 1, 2, and 3 diagrams show the procedure for adjusting internally-adjustable shocks such as the red Koni Special shocks.

That sheet is not showing any assembly instructions.

What do you need to know?
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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I got the Koni yellow's and I thought it was going to be a simple install. Although when I saw steps 1-3 I was confused on whether I have to do any adjustments prior to strut assembly.
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Old Apr 30, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Koni Ground Control install

Originally Posted by UrbanAdolescent
I got the Koni yellow's and I thought it was going to be a simple install. Although when I saw steps 1-3 I was confused on whether I have to do any adjustments prior to strut assembly.
No, those 1, 2, 3 pics above do not apply to externally adjustable Koni Sports.

I believe certain applications of the Koni Sport are actually internally adjustable and not external (older Corvettes or something if I recall), so those pics are probably for those shocks.
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