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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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just picked these up. one of the sleeves is bent on the bottom still safe to use??




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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Haha...

How will ryan be able to explain this one?

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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if they are still usuable ill try em out but it looks like when i put them together all the way the stress will make that bend worse.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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flip it upside down.

or see if theyll warranty it.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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They should be covered by ground control, but I would not put those on any car.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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God no man, get that **** replaced. you can't seat a sleeve like that.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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man those look like they took a beating. Too bad we don't have pics of how they were when they were still installed.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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what car are these for? that one sleeve doesn't look like the normal GC sleeve. Are you sure these are "ground XXXXXX" coil overs. Any were on the springs does it say GC or eibach, or on the perchs?

Also seems like you just bought them used 2nd hand, i haven't ever heard of a company honoring a warrenty to a second hand buyer.


and i too like nonsense would like to see what they were installed on befor and if the damage was done when they were one the car.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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hmm good point. i dont see any markings of ground control or eibach.

but like i said earlier, flipping the perch upside down seems like the most practical way to make it work.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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I thought the same thing. I've never seen a GC with that "groove" near the bottom. The should have markings too:

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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they are ground control and i did buy them second hand. apparently they were installed with tokiko struts and the strut didnt seat right..??? is there any way that i can get just the sleeve>? ill get some pics of all of them tomorrow.

edit: they are for a 90-93 integra
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 05:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hndakd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> is there any way that i can get just the sleeve&gt;? </TD></TR></TABLE>

call ground control, i'm almost positive they sell sleeves for around $50.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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sometimes illuminas are too wide bodied to take the sleeves right, but still, that's stupid. You should have known about that before you recieved them
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haha...

How will ryan be able to explain this one?

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I make the springs, not the sleeves

Doesn't look like a GC kit to me.

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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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sorry about the size of these i dont know how to resize. these are definitely ground controls, the thing is only one is stamped and only in this one place..??
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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ok instead of tryin to mess around with them and make them work i just bought a new sleeve for 15 bucks i have been lookin at their site and noticed that theres two other pieces that are supposed to come with the kit the silver ones in this pic what are they and do i need them http://www.nopionline.com/nopi...s.jpg
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Those silver parts arn't for a civic/integra. Your kit should contain:

4 red aluminum sleeves
4 gold aluminum nuts
4 allen screws (1 inside each nut)
4 black poly upper hat spring locaters (they go between the spring & the upper mounts)
4 black poly sleeves (they go between the red aluminum sleeves and the shock body)
4 eibach ground control springs
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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uplaod your pictures to http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com th site your useing sucks. I don't recoginze those sleeves. I have installed GC on integra's and those sleeves don't look like the ones we used, and i haven't seen any changes to the tubes since then.

how sure are you that these are ground controls? i can go on ebay and find 5 or so different coilovers that look exactly like GC but aren't
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 05:08 AM
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well the last picture is the one that is stamped. ill take some more pics and host on a different site . i ordered a new sleeve and it should be here in a couple of days or so. what are
&lt;4 black poly upper hat spring locaters (they go between the spring & the upper mounts)
4 black poly sleeves (they go between the red aluminum sleeves and the shock body)&gt;
i dont think i have those and i dont see them on any of the picks that i have seen of the gc kit.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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ok heres some pretty clear pics. i did a lil more research and i guess that im missing the poly sleeves and the hat locators&gt;? will these just bolt to a set of kyb's or do i need some kinda adaptor im a little confused about what kind of strut i should buy.


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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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OK, two of the springs are from Ground Control and two are just the standard Eibach ERS, nowhere on the sleeves themselves does it say ground control. So either these are really old and weren't stamped or they are cheap fakes (at least you got good springs). I'd e-mail GC and ask them to take a look at them and have them send you all the missing parts at the same time.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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cool, i did call them and tried to describe what i had and what i might need. never thought to email them though ima dumbass. thanks for the help everyone
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hndakd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are:
4 black poly upper hat spring locaters (they go between the spring & the upper mounts)
4 black poly sleeves (they go between the red aluminum sleeves and the shock body)</TD></TR></TABLE>

For any OEM style shock body (I'm pretty sure thats what KYB are), the sleeve is much bigger than the shock body. The poly sleeve goes between the threaded sleeve & the shock body to take up the extra space. This provides a nice snug fit, with no rattling from the sleeve.

The GC springs are not exactly the same size as the OEM springs. GC povides you with new poly upper mount spring locaters. These go inside the existing rubber spring cussion, and allow the smaller diameter GC springs to stay centered once the suspension is loaded.

PS&gt; I also noticed your other front sleeve is starting to bell out at the bottom. This is bad because it will end up splitting just like the other one you've got. From what I can see, you got a mixed setup, made to look like a GC kit. I just hope that those used gold nuts will fit onto the real GC sleeve you ordered...
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