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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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i got tein basic coilover kit on my eg hatch.
it sits kind of low but want to go lower. If i go lower the spring is loose what can i do to fix this. i heard its bad bc it can bounce etc.
and im wondering if can ground control extended top hats or ebay ones fit for my eg. front and backs.
if i go lower will it blow
i need help for my setup.

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Old May 16, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Old May 17, 2011 | 02:30 AM
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The lower you go the higher spring rate you'll need.

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Waitaminute. The spring is loose?

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Old May 17, 2011 | 05:29 AM
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The spring being loose then the suspension is at full droop is normal. Don't worry about it. Mine were "loose" when I installed mine and they've driven fine every day for 6 months now.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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Didn't I answer these questions in the other thread you started?
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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The lower you go the higher spring rate you'll need.

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Waitaminute. The spring is loose?
so if i go with a higher spring rate or if i use helper springs will i be safe if i slam on the basics, ive heard of them blowing with just the springs it has.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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so if i go with a higher spring rate or if i use helper springs will i be safe if i slam on the basics, ive heard of them blowing with just the springs it has.
Helper springs won't help you.

You NEED higher spring rates.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:32 AM
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Higher rates will also blow the tein basics. You need to get koni/GC or AMR if you want a quality slammed car that will last. Anything else you can expect them to blow. Tokico Illumina wouldn't be bad either. Pair them with some stiff Ground Controls and you'll be fine.
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
Higher rates will also blow the tein basics. You need to get koni/GC or AMR if you want a quality slammed car that will last. Anything else you can expect them to blow. Tokico Illumina wouldn't be bad either. Pair them with some stiff Ground Controls and you'll be fine.
Good stuff
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Are Illumina's a lot better than blues? Or is the only difference adjustable dampering?
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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Yes, they are a much better shock.

blues are a OE replacment shock, they really are not meant to be have aftermarket springs/be lowered/ or handle the increased spring rates that goes along with thme.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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what full coilovers are good or setup that can b slammed or tucked good sizes, and ive heard that stiffer ones are better. are Function N Form, Skunk 2 coilover kits good, how about omni power
? how does these ride
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EG-SIXV-TEC
what full coilovers are good or setup that can b slammed or tucked good sizes, and ive heard that stiffer ones are better. are Function N Form, Skunk 2 coilover kits good, how about omni power
? how does these ride
What is this obsession with "full coilovers"?

The 3 you mentioned suck. They will ride like ****, slammed they will ride even worse.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:04 AM
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People are obsessed with "full coilovers" because they prefer to be able to just remove the old suspension as a whole and drop the new right in without any more effort. In other words people are just plain lazy.
Then there's this school of thought that anything less, springs and shocks only, is somehow incomplete and requires too much effort to finagle-meaning too much thought to put together. Again, lazy.
Then there are the people that just want to sport something that looks cool without benefit of any research. They don't know anything about spring rates, damping or anything else that goes into choosing a quality setup. Warranties, company reputation and history don't seem to factor into it. The just want to rock the shiniest, most colorful thing they see their "boys" rocking. Peer pressure.
Lastly you have cheap *** individuals that don't want to spend any money whatsoever and buy the cheapest "full coilover" they can get their hands on. Hence the reason why F&F is doing so well amongst the teeny bopper crowd. "It's a full coilover and it's cheap!"
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Most "full coilover" systems are HARDER to adjust the ride height. You cant just climb under and lower the adjuster down. You have to un bolt the lower mount, and then you can adjust the height.

Company's make it seem like full coilovers are the only way to go. And there's no such thing as a ****ing "full coilover"! A coilover is a god damn coilover. just becasue it comes with a shock/damper/strut or whatever you want to call, it dosn't make it any better then say Koni/gc, or skunk2/GC and a quality shock. Half of the "full coilovers" have the shittiest shocks you can buy.
People **** me off.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Default Re: EG tein basic coilover

Originally Posted by 98civdx
You have to un bolt the lower mount, and then you can adjust the height.
Actually, you don't
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by donut.
Actually, you don't
how do you do it then?


Unless the whole shock will turn while bolted in the car. In that case, I have been doing it wrong for a while.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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You answered your own question. To elaborate, the spring has 2 rings, 1 to set and the 2nd to lock. The 3rd ring is the lock for the bottom portion. loosen the 3rd ring, and crank the 1st ring to spin the whole shock to the left, or the 2nd ring to spin the shock to the right.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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I can't belive I hadn't figured that out. I always thought you had to loosen the lower mounts.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:02 AM
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ey wHAts up i have an ej1 and ii put generic springs all over the front its 2.5 and the back 2.50 or something like that but the thing is i put new shocks in the back the brand is tokico and the ones in the from are kyb and the weird part is that the back stays really high and i dont know what i did wrong because i put everything how it was supposed to be if you have a solution let me know please thank you!!
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by josua92
ey wHAts up i have an ej1 and ii put generic springs all over the front its 2.5 and the back 2.50 or something like that but the thing is i put new shocks in the back the brand is tokico and the ones in the from are kyb and the weird part is that the back stays really high and i dont know what i did wrong because i put everything how it was supposed to be if you have a solution let me know please thank you!!
Simple. Crappy springs coupled with poor shock choice. How is it sitting high if they're sitting on coilovers? Adjust the height.

What you have just done is called a thread jack and considered poor forum etiquette. Your post has nothing to do with the original topic.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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damn if yu think that then dont answer to this post you ricer.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by josua92
damn if yu think that then dont answer to this post you ricer.
This isn't even your post.
You post about cheap Ebay springs in a COILOVER thread and you don't think this is a thread jack? And then, just as noobs with hurt feeling do, they resort to name calling.

What do your generic springs and mismatched shocks have to do with "Tein Basic coilovers" for an EG? Nothing.
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