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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Default Binding axles?

I already asked this in the 92-00 Civic and the tech forums... with no reponses. Maybe I'll have luck here?

Ok so my car is low. Its on Ground Controls that are currently STUCK so i can't raise it. Anyways I go through axles a lot and im pretty sure its the ride height. I just aquired some Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 axles and i can FEEL it shake at low speeds due to binding. I got some H&R Sport springs with new AGX shocks going on by the weekend, but im wondering if anyone has ever had this problem with a LOW car?


I have a B18C5 swap with the factory LSD transmission... i have heard that LSD transmissions may make a difference in the axles you use.. is this true?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PurpleEKHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on my old crx it seemed like i destroyed the axles a lot quicker when my car was lowered. i only changed them once but it did seem like they went quicker. i dunno i always wondered this myself. </TD></TR></TABLE>

In theory, this would put more stress on the axles, but if so then how come i seem to be the only one with this problem? I see many cars on here who are a lot lower than I am.

I looked up the part numbers for axles for a 97 Type R and for a 97 GS-R and the part numbers are different...

ITR


GS-R


Hope those links work.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Anyone know?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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I don't think lowering your car alone would cause premature axle wear. It sounds like you think lowering your ride height would change the angles and lengths of your axles from stock resulting in increased wear. Your outer and inner CV jointsare designed in such a way that the angles allow a consistent speed to be maintained from end to end. As for length, your innner joint, aka plunging rzeppa joint, does just that, plunges to allow length changes due to the arced travel path of the suspension and should be able to compensate for normal lowering. Maybe you already knew all this but, you didn't give much info, like how much lower than stock the car is, or exactly how many axles you've gone through and most importantly, what was wrong with them.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tech1145 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think lowering your car alone would cause premature axle wear. It sounds like you think lowering your ride height would change the angles and lengths of your axles from stock resulting in increased wear. Your outer and inner CV jointsare designed in such a way that the angles allow a consistent speed to be maintained from end to end. As for length, your innner joint, aka plunging rzeppa joint, does just that, plunges to allow length changes due to the arced travel path of the suspension and should be able to compensate for normal lowering. Maybe you already knew all this but, you didn't give much info, like how much lower than stock the car is, or exactly how many axles you've gone through and most importantly, what was wrong with them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't think lowering would give this much of a problem. I seriously replace axles every two months. But only in the last year or so has this gotten worse.

Usually vibration is the cause of replacement, bad inner joint, clicking in the outer. I dont beat on the car at all. I just drive, and drive fast on occassion.

The car is low... tires touch the fenders. I will be raising it up slightly shortly. Any thoughts?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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I don't know man. It is highly unusual for both inner and outer joints to go bad at the same time, for no obvious (like contamination) reason. Did you disassemble the joints and inspect them? For the vibration, did you check your torque axis mount? that could easily cause the vibration. Also, does the C5 have an intermediate shaft? If so check the bearings 'cause they could be the cause too. Does the vibration increase with speed?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tech1145 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know man. It is highly unusual for both inner and outer joints to go bad at the same time, for no obvious (like contamination) reason. Did you disassemble the joints and inspect them? For the vibration, did you check your torque axis mount? that could easily cause the vibration. Also, does the C5 have an intermediate shaft? If so check the bearings 'cause they could be the cause too. Does the vibration increase with speed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Doesn't necessarilly happen at the same time. Like this last time, it felt like one of the inner joints broke, and the outer joint on the other started to click. On one side the boot has a slight tear in it.

It does have an intermediate shaft which is off of my old B16. I'll take it off and inspect it as well.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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alright, keep me posted
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