Ok here's the setup I'm planning on going with since I'm Anit Vtec and Anti Turbo/Supercharge. So far I have CAI, DC 4-1 Header, Those Ricey Performance Spark Plug Wires, Hallowed out my cat and cut out my resognator (spelling). On the way I have a Skunk 2 IM and Crane Stage 2 Cams along with AEM Cam Gears and a Port and Polish Job on my Ls Head. I know this isn't going to be a complete beast but what sort of gain (1/4 mile time) can I expect? What other mods could I do to stay all motor? Maybe Pistons....but what type of pistons? Thanks for your input and I'll keep you posted once I get it all in and together.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ls InTeGrA RaCeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here's the setup I'm planning on going with since I'm Anit Vtec and Anti Turbo/Supercharge. So far I have CAI, DC 4-1 Header, Those Ricey Performance Spark Plug Wires, Hallowed out my cat and cut out my resognator (spelling). On the way I have a Skunk 2 IM and Crane Stage 2 Cams along with AEM Cam Gears and a Port and Polish Job on my Ls Head. I know this isn't going to be a complete beast but what sort of gain (1/4 mile time) can I expect? What other mods could I do to stay all motor? Maybe Pistons....but what type of pistons? Thanks for your input and I'll keep you posted once I get it all in and together.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your going to spend to much money on that motor and still get beat by boosted and vtec cars and maybe a few focus and neons
your i/h/e will give about 10 horse at the most
aem cam gears suck
p@p good move
pistons mmm im not sure what your going to use

my advice if you dont like vtec
go buy a a b20 build it and nitrous
or
dont buy a honda

 

S1 or a Y1 (LSD) trans. shorter gears make a BIG diff.

 

wow, you are anti-vtec and anti-FI . That leaves you with not too much on a Honda B-series. I dont know man, that sounds good so far, but you will have minimal gains and that will cost a lot more than it is worth. IMHO opinon you will be wasting your money and probably wont be satisfied with the results. Whetever, though, do what you want; your money, your car.

 

Yeah what they said. Slap a turbo on dat dare LS, you'll love yourself and get all giddy every time you hit boost. But not to be *****: it's whatever you want.

Here's a piece of advice: forget the other stuff first, buy an S1 or Y1 tranny first, LSD or not, and you'll be happy. It'll make a huge difference that you can feel; plus, if you ever decide to go FI or VTEC, you can keep the tranny and go even faster.

 

i love turbo ls-ts, but sence u dont like, ill give u some advice. First find a b16 tranny, then some p30 pistons 2 bump the compresion 2 about 11:1. Some crower 404s, upgraded valvtrain, and lots of tunning, along wit a decent header-intake exhaust combo. Arp rod bolts for ur rods so u can rasie ur redline, so ur cams take advantage of the high compression. And dont forget the pnp head. With good tunig, u should be around 170-180whp at the wheels, wit about 135-140wtq. Or u could just boost and all ur troubles would b over.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joboost13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i love turbo ls-ts, but sence u dont like, ill give u some advice. First find a b16 tranny, then some p30 pistons 2 bump the compresion 2 about 11:1. Some crower 404s, upgraded valvtrain, and lots of tunning, along wit a decent header-intake exhaust combo. Arp rod bolts for ur rods so u can rasie ur redline, so ur cams take advantage of the high compression. And dont forget the pnp head. With good tunig, u should be around 170-180whp at the wheels, wit about 135-140wtq. Or u could just boost and all ur troubles would b over. </TD></TR></TABLE>
170-180 whp!!?? I really dont think with the mods listed it will make that much whp. Remember a stock LS makes about 115-120 whp stock. I dont know though, please correct me if i am wrong, that seems like a pretty big gain for those mods.

 

all motor ls is an ok setup if ur lloin for less expensive pistons jdm p30s r good and usdm pr3 are good too and both will fit stock ls rods

 

well u can make over 180whp on an all LS motor. it's been done before.

high compression pistons, some serious cams like crower 405's or for a streetable ride the 404's, upgraded valvetrain, ported and polished head, bored out block, etc.
there are a few LS guys in this forum running 13's to low 14's on there LS motor.

but one of the main things u should do is to get a B16 tranny. the gearing on the LS tranny is too long.

right now im running an LS motor.
it has the usual I/H/E, CROWER 62403's with upgraded valvesprings and retainers, SKUNK2 camgears, SAFC and B&M FPR to tune it a bit.
In a few months im gonna get a B16 tranny. then im gonna build the bottom end with some ITR pistons. All of this should be good for about 150-160 whp and a mid 14 second car. HOPEFULLY

 

Yeah, i know its definitely possible and I have seen LS's run those times and put up numbers like that too, i was just wondering if those mods listed would get it there. Btw, where is your boosted K20?

 

its a good thing you spent money on that skunk2 IM because it will do you NO good, infact it will probably jsut hurt your performance.

 

get a stroker kit and spray that NAWSSS

 

dont get itr pistons the can be made to fit ls rods but p30s fit stock plus they will give you a higher cr

 

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Haha, i didnt think of that. If i am right, it will hurt low end on a mildly modded ls. Is that right or am i thinking of something else?

 

if your getting cams then dont forget springs valves and retainers...but springs for sure...but honestly...get boosted...in my opinion...unless your ready to get beat by quite a few cars

 

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yea..... i dont have a RSX. i just choose that sn cuz i will be get n an rsx in a year or two and plan on boost n it. i love that fricken car!

so the itr pistons wont fit directly? so my best bet will be to get some p30's

 

I know that boosting would be a good way to go but I don't want to spend a few G's on one setup and have it suck (in my opinion) and then Spend another few G's to get another setup and so on. I just want something for a daily driver (that will also have a little get up and go) that wont suck tons of gas out of my tank on a 10 mile round trip. Right now this is my only car so I need it to stay in running order as long as possible.

As for the pistons I'll look at getting some p30's and I've also thought about those valve springs and retainers too. Would the IM really hurt me with the setup I'd be running? Thanks for the input and keep the info comming.

 

me setup consist of:

b16 hydro tranny
bs intake
custom 2 1/2 inch piping with n1 style tip
130,000 mile on engine

Pull hard as hell, i beat all b16 powered coupes i face expect for my friends that has a pnp head, i stay with him 2 fourth though. For a daily driver i say go all motor ls. If u want mor power u can alwalys put a vtec head on it later. Our u can boost like i said earlier, and race v6 and v8's all day instead of 4cyclinders. Hope this helps u decide wit what u want 2 do.

 

i had basically the same setup that you are talking about but with quite a few more mods. I also didn't have the port and polish. i was able to beat gsrs, si's, wrx's, 1.8t's, and so on. A lot of people underestimate the power of ls motors, but when built right they can do some damage. good luck with it.

 

man to run a allmotor ls you should first sonsider in getting a si or gs tranny for the short gears since its all motor and the aem cam geras are no good amd if your gona upgrade your cams and gears or you should upgrade the whole valvetrain by crower or skunk2 and as for port and polish thats a good thing and for pistons and rods not sure what brand but get high compression , but with all that money your gona spend you couldve gone boos and spent alot less and gained alot more hp

 

My set up:
Rebuilt b18b...81.5mm JE pistons 11:1, Eagle Rods
Balanced Blue printed
STOCK cams, race port and polish head Crower valve train
LS tranny
S2 IM, JDM Pro1 Top Speed 4-1 header, Mozart header back exhaust

I ran 14.7 with this set up, pretty decent for stock cams, and dynoed at 141hp without the S2 IM and bad exhaust leak

 

It is very difficult to be really fast with an all motor ls, but I respect you for trying. Like everybody else said, p30 pistons and a b16 tranny will be the most important things. I would also go with crower 404's instead of those crane cams. Good luck man, and keep us updated.

 

would the crower 404's be good for daily driving?

 

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It'll be pretty loppy(sp?). You also need a S-AFC or ECU tuned in order to idle.
It runs too rich at idle.