If you read my sig you can see that my engine is stock. I am interested in throwing my D15B1 and 4-spd tranny out of my car and put one of those two engines into my car. I know the JDM D15B has 127 hp, and the Mini-Me will have about 130ish. The cash flow I can put into this is +- $3k. I was wondering which would be the better swap? I am looking for about 140whp with an N/A setup. Mid 14s?

Lastly, which D series tranny comes with LSD? Any suggestions would help, thanks.

 

check out http://www.d-series.org and i have a mini-me and i love it... its a good engine...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrspeaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If i had 3k to spend on a swap i would definetely go b-series ...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not neccessarily, you can build a hell of a D-series motor with that kinda money. Swappin in a B would cost just under that whole amount. I think I would go with the Jdm D15B which will drop directly in unlike a B. With the mini-me, all you havta do is swap on the vtec head, and do wiring depending on whether u want to convert to obd-1 or not. Read up more on what you have to do for that swap then decide from there.
Either way, after doing either of these swaps, you'll still have over 2k to put into motor. Wheareas with the B, you're lucky to spend less than 3k dependin on which motor you go for.

 

This is true. But for the same money it would take to get the B, He can build a D that beats the **** out of B's easy. He'll be able to pop the motor in there, and immediately begin to build the motor, whereas with the B, he's got a stock motor for who knows how long until he can get the kind of money to seriously mod it. So i would say that for the money it costs, buildin the would be more cost effective than gettin a B. That and its pretty fun to beat up on some car, then show him you got a Sohc under the hood.

 

runnin a d15b not and i love it. got it mated to a si tranny. beat a stock 2k Si in my HF and still using a HF manifold and cat

 

u could turbo a d15b vtec and smoke a LOT of cars

 

you're right...sohc's are capable of making great power, but it's expensive. Why spend 3 grand on making a sohc fast when you can go b-series, leave it stock, and still have a fast reliable car. don't get me wrong, the d15b's a great engine. If you build it, boost it

 

but on the other hand, it IS a lotta fun to rape the occasional v6 mustang with ur little sohc. D-series.....B series, not sure theres a best answer to that.

 

i just did a b16 swap in a 90 civic si and have about $3000 in it


$500 clean *** 90civic si hb
$1200 xsi complete swap
$420 mounts and shift linkage
$200 tube front x-member
$350 ebay 4to1 header and pipe at the local muffler shop
and about 150 in cai and some other stuff

so u can do a b series with a 3grand budget and have more then a stock b in it

 

b18b with a few bolt ons and a/f and timing tuning you can pull 140hp and
a gigantic *** torque band (for a honda)

 

i THINK the options were d15b and mini-me....l

 

get a d15b lower miles...and fucken boost that ****. YOU CANNOT MAKE E Z HP out of a sohc w/ out $$$$. Believe me i know all.

 

i have a b series in my car but theres no way i would have put it in if i couldnt rebuild it. for the price you have listed i would recommend getting a sohc vtec with low miles throw a good cam in there intake header and exhaust and you should be able to hit 140 and still be really reliable. whats the point in spending 3k on a motor that already has been beat on in japan for 10 plus years. get a sohc mate it to an si tranny and youll be in business.

 

ok here is a thought
a modded out d series for the same price as a stock b series. both having about the same hp maybe torque too but it goes back to a stock motor is more reliable then a modded motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1.888 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here is a thought
a modded out d series for the same price as a stock b series. both having about the same hp maybe torque too but it goes back to a stock motor is more reliable then a modded motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>Who cares? That isnt what he wanted to know. He is asking about the d15b and a mini me. THAT IS IT. Not b series anything, just single cams and your opinions. I would go with the D15b. Also, the JDM d15b came with the optional LSD tranny.

 

Since you stated that you want to do 140 N/A then that throws out the idea of a turbo.

I wouldn't use the D15. I would go for a D16A6 or D16Z6. The little extra displacement will help you get closer to your goal of 140.

If you are really stuck on the two ideas you have then go with the D15b and put a nice cam (not evena wild one... just a decent street grind) in it and a mild port job on the head. That should land you in the 140's easy if not more along with the basic I/H/E bolt-ons.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He'll be able to pop the motor in there, and immediately begin to build the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>


well, i wouldn't say get a D15, drop it in , then start working on it. If you have that much extra cash you can throw in tons of parts before you put the engine in !!!!


Oh and why would you go mini me? with the D15b?... you could either get a D16z6 or D16y8 complete and swap that in, or you could also get a D16a6 block and mate either the z6 or the y8 head on. The great thing about what your doing is, hopefully if you have a little space, while you build the motor up a bit, you still have something running in your car now. So you could get a cam and gear, get the head port and polished, and maybe even buy some cheap pistons that are going to be stronger than stock. And there is quite a few piston options that dont include you buying from Eagle etc. I believe there are some sazuki pistons + rods that can be used with low compression for boost

lots of options with a D-series motor and some extra cash. Because you can find allot of things cheap, and still get 140whp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Revolver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who cares? That isnt what he wanted to know. He is asking about the d15b and a mini me. THAT IS IT. Not b series anything, just single cams and your opinions. I would go with the D15b. Also, the JDM d15b came with the optional LSD tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry i wasnt paying attention. then i would go with a sohc zc (350) with port/polished head(400), cam(200), cam gear(80), homemade individual throttle bodies(800), apexi safc, zc transmission(if you can find one, if not get an 89-91 si), clutch(make sure the clutch matches the year, i went through that bullshit 88 doesnt match the 89 spline count), lightened flywheel, keep in mind good fluids too. a few of my friends have had sohc zc's and theyre strong. i was building a crx with a zc tranny and a d16y8 but decided to get rid of it the whole car. the combo at the time seemed good but i relized later that its a lot of work for something thats isnt that great and i should have went zc. if you live in california keep smogg in mind, mini-me-not smogg legal, d15b- convert to obd1wire v-tec, a zc direct swap replacement of your stock motor with the same hp as the d15b just no v-tec. my d16y8 at the time costs me 600, sohc zc's cost 350. zc's came with the optional lsd trannys(cable type) with intermediate shafts on the dohc ones.
i recogmend going stock si tranny, and getting a quaffe later.


Modified by 1.888 at 12:15 PM 10/4/2004


Modified by 1.888 at 12:22 PM 10/4/2004

 

if you have the money to get a b series, then get a b series. but by having the money for a b series i dont mean initial investment.

remember that b series definately are a better platform, but also remember that parts cost ALOT more than d series. I could find d series blocks and trannies for $100 or less all the time. try finding a b series cable tranny for $100 or even a head fo ra b16 for under $400.

it all depends on how much you want to spend now and in the future.

IMO, buy a d15b and an Si or ZC tranny, we'll say roughly $1000 for everything including a clutch and whatnot, then take about $1500 and make one hell of a bad *** turbo kit and give that d15b hell and rape some b series ....
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with a 1.5L SOHC :D

 

heres my upcoming setup,

a6 block,p29 pistons
z6 head, light p+p
y8 headgasket
skunk2 intake manifold
skunk2 camgear
zex59300 cam
vafc
zc tranny with si final drive

a tuned high-compression mini me will eat up b series swaps for a fraction of the cost.

 

jdm d15b's are gay, they are unike to themselves and hard to get parts for. meaning other d-seris **** wont fit in them.

 

^what the hell are you talking about ? i have a sohc vtec jdm swap in my 90 dx and i built the internals with z6 aftermarket parts so it can handle boost better !!!
works great for me

people that say things that have no clue what there talking about, thinking they can shoot the **** and say something smart

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mycrxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm d15b's are gay, they are unike to themselves and hard to get parts for. meaning other d-seris **** wont fit in them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow lets not be retarded or anything.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wow lets not be retarded or anything. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He can't help it.
Retards can't just wake up some morning and not be retarded anymore.

 

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