that's it i'm pissed off, i have replaced over 6 oil pan gasket, and this sh*t ain't getting solved. every freaken time, i install oil pan gasket, it gets smushed & started to twisted, when i'm torqueing that sh*t less than 5lb. ...... there is certain way to bolt this sh*t. for example there is nuts & bolts. i was told to tighten nuts first then bolts, which i did. but every f*cking time when i'm tighten bolts, gasket get twisted....

i'm getting pissed over gasket.... i think i have spent as much as $300 on f*cking rubber....

help,. needed before i go out get myself a hammer.

 

take your **** to Acura and let them do it.

 

6 oil pan gaskets = $300? wtf? They're $18/each.

Anyways... are you installing the gasket upside down? Are you torquing it to 8 ft-lbs? If its 'smushed' you're overtightening or its not lined up when you put it in there. You can use a *small* dab of honda bond to hold the gasket in place while you install the pan, but do not use much or the gasket will leak where the hondabond is.

 

last time i check tustin acura sell'em for 37 each, cerritos sell'em for 34. f*ckers ripping everybody

anyhow, i guess next time i gotta use lot of honda-bonds hehehe

 

ive had this problem since i did my swap. been through about 3-4 pans and gaskets. ive tried it all from alot of hondabond to a little bit of bond to no hondabond at all. i recomend taking it to a dealer and having them do it. because if it happends again they will have to fix it. just my .02

 

yeah use honda-bond on the part where the U is on the oil pan..... put honda-bond all thru the U part of the pan! it works......

 

Wow put the gasket in a hot place with a bunch of books over it and let it set itself straight

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integrasi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">last time i check tustin acura sell'em for 37 each, cerritos sell'em for 34. f*ckers ripping everybody</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.acuraparts247.com

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No, then it will leak.

Its HondaBond... its an RTV sealant.

 

HAHAHAHAHA!!! You and me both. I went through about 2 or 3 gaskets and it's still leaking. DO NOT TORQUE THE OIL PAN GASKET TO FACTORY SPECS. You will crush the gasket every time because its soft rubber. Lemme guess? Using a 3/4 or 1/4 in. torque wrench? Wrenches that large aren't sensative enough and you end up way overtorqueing. Use hondabond where necessary and tighten the pan bolts just enough so there is slight and evenly distributed pressure on the gasket or it will start leaking again. Replacing the oil pan gasket looks easy but its a bitch!

 

i think i have found the reason....... maybe cuz, i'm using after market stud... to bolt'en the nuts??? that it's moving the gasket while tighten...

 

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what the hell are you talkikng about?

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Do you have a torque wrench accurate at 8 ft-lbs?

 

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Do you have a torque wrench accurate at 8 ft-lbs?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Isn't that just about hand tight? Who need a wrench for that?

 

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Seems some of these guys do.

 

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yes.

96 in-lb of torque = easy with a inch pound torque wrench.

 

yor're all wrong, it's 86 inch/lb, which is about 7 ft/lb. yes, have torque wrench & when i do use torque wrench it gets smushed.

 

You have to be doing something wrong.

 

Never mind...math owns me today.




Modified by El Pollo Diablo at 11:56 AM 9/21/2004

 

It's 12 Nm = 8.7 lbf.ft (poundforce x foot)
9 Nm is about hand tight. Like the nuts on the valve cover.

 

torque is force x distance. not force divided by distance.

it's 7 ft.-lbs. NOT 7 ft./lbs.

conversion would be 7 ft.-lbs. = 84in.-lbs.

in other words, you've been over torquing the pan/gasket. assuming you have a torque wrench that is measured via ft.-lbs. (FOOT POUNDS), and you're setting it to "84", your gasket will twist and get crushed.

kepani

 

Actually, lbs is mass not force.
That's why you should use lbf poundforce.
Newton is the real indication for force.

 

holy crap.

 

when torqueing the nut, it's fine. when i torque on the bolts, that's where everything gets twisted & smushed.....

 

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changing an oil pan gasket may be one of the most simple and straightforward maintenance items on your car. Might take some time because of the header, etc, but its EASY. I dont' get what the problem is. Did you flatten the gasket out with a book or something heavy? are you using hondabond? are you just not paying attention?

Chris - who has never had any sort of problems.

 

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Then you aren't lining the holes up right. Or you have it misaligned, backwards, something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DutchITR1689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, lbs is mass not force.
That's why you should use lbf poundforce.
Newton is the real indication for force.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha. Lbm is mass. Lbf is force. Lb is arbitrary and (IMO) usually assumes force.

http://observe.phy.sfasu.edu/c...112/7
Page 7, Engineering Mass and Weight

Pound-Mass
lbm
The mass of one pound.
One slug weighs 32.2 pounds.
One pound mass weighs 1 pound.
1 slug = 32.2 lbm

Pound-Force
lbf
It is the same as a pound (lb).
1 lbf = 1 lb