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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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So I impulsively bought some Eibach Sportline springs off Ebay, and now I'm not so sure they're the right setup for me. Seems like they're more about the drop than improved performance?

I don't want to go with a coil-over setup (roads are bumpy around here) but I DO want to improve the handling. Anyone go from stock to A-Spec and notice results?

Also, does the Eibach ProKit spring/stock strut setup compare closely to the A-Spec? If they're pretty much the same, seems like the A-Spec would be better since it would preserve your warranty and all that.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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I Picked up the A-Spec suspension and installed it a few weeks ago and I can really notice a difference. The ride is much better damped and controlled. Body Roll still exists but it is less, as is nose dive under hard braking. The car will still understeer but it is not nearly noticable and a quick lift of the throttle will tuck the nose of the car in.

My intentions with the suspension were to improve on the stock setup and still maintain a comfortable ride for the street. This does the job perfectly. If you are looking more for a "track/autox" suspension, you may want to look elsewhere, but for the street .

Soon I will be adding a the Type R 22mm rear sway bar to try and minimize the understeer. But I'm having fun with the car the way it is now.

A Spec is a great improvement, and I still believe that this should have been standard on the Type S. I think Acura may have sold even more if they did.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Thanks for the reply, by the sounds of it, the A-Spec setup is definitely the way I want to go. Did you go through your dealer to get the kit and have it installed? How much did it cost you?
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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I don't have the aspec kit but I do have the ITR springs and struts. as far as I know they are the same. I installed these with a 22 mm ITR sway bar and it's pretty nice. much more agressive. it took a little getting used to it. but now it's awesome. I haven't had problems with understeer. the car feels very neutral. I do have the JDM brembos setup so that might make a difference.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tuesday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the reply, by the sounds of it, the A-Spec setup is definitely the way I want to go. Did you go through your dealer to get the kit and have it installed? How much did it cost you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My local delaer was parting out the remaing A-spec kit they had so I was able to pick it up for $600, a decent price.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznbo1626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I haven't had problems with understeer. the car feels very neutral.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The rear sway bar may help, and under moderate driving conditions its fine, but when pushed the front washes out. Compared to my DC2 ITR, I have to wait longer to get back on the gas around corners. And it takes a bigger lift of the throttle to get the car to rotate.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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I have JDM front and rear sway bars. I also have a wider suspension due to it being the JDM setup. But the thing I notice is that the tires make a difference. I'm running advan neovas. they are awesome tires. I think it might be the tires you are running on.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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No one can tune a Honda better than Honda... you know that.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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i've got the aspec suspension and I love it.

the stock tires suck HORRIBLY! i've ridden in a few type S's with intakes that can spin the crap out of the tires without trying...

my intake equpied A-Spec just grabs and goes (different tires make a HUGE difference)

the suspension is very nice as well...


eibachs, however, are what i would have bought if i didn't get a-spec already on the car... they make good springs. not necessairally the lowest drop, but usually one of the best drops for the money.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mavtais &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No one can tune a Honda better than Honda... you know that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sometimes!

but does anybody have pictures of rsx's with the a-spec suspension, that isnt an A-spec model

dont get me wrong i want the performance aspect of this mod as well, but it wouldnt hurt to see pics
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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i just put on a set of asa 16'' rims, falken azenis tires(rim/ture weigh 4lbs less than stock, even with the heavy falkens), and hotchkis springs, 1.5 front, 1.3 rear. with thhis combo the car handles a million times better, and ride is the same as stock. and for a total cost of.....$240 tires, $500 rims, $160 springs=$900 in my opinion you can get a lot more for less than the a-spec. i had a set of eibach sportlines(1.5 all around) on my ep3 for over a year with stock shocks, and never had any problems. the ride was about like stock as well.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 04:30 AM
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The issue with just putting a set of springs on the stock shocks is that the stock shocks are already severly underdamped. Adding a stronger spring will just make it worse and accelerate the wear, shortening the life of the shock.

The A-Spec spring rates are only mildy higher, BUT the big difference is in the shock valving!! The ride is much more damped and controlled. That is the reason I choose them over just a set of springs. And the addition of new shocks (konis for example) would raise the price well over the ASpec setup.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Alright then, I'm pretty much sold on the A Spec setup. I've also heard good things about the Mugen SS package, but it's more $$ and I figure the A-Spec stuff will preserve the factory warranty as long as I have the dealership install, and performance between the two is, from what I've heard, fairly close. But I'm guessing there.

So next question, where did you all get your A-Spec stuff? I can't seem to find it online anywhere, nor can I find it on Acura's site. I could be retarded, or maybe I just have to walk into my local dealer with cash?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tuesday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright then, I'm pretty much sold on the A Spec setup. I've also heard good things about the Mugen SS package, but it's more $$ and I figure the A-Spec stuff will preserve the factory warranty as long as I have the dealership install, and performance between the two is, from what I've heard, fairly close. But I'm guessing there.

So next question, where did you all get your A-Spec stuff? I can't seem to find it online anywhere, nor can I find it on Acura's site. I could be retarded, or maybe I just have to walk into my local dealer with cash?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep go to the parts department at ur local acura. that or have a shop order it for you im sure they can do it.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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ebay has some sets every once-in-a whle...

but ebay seems to be screwey right now with some of their pages not loading...
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tuesday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright then, I'm pretty much sold on the A Spec setup. I've also heard good things about the Mugen SS package, but it's more $$ and I figure the A-Spec stuff will preserve the factory warranty as long as I have the dealership install, and performance between the two is, from what I've heard, fairly close. But I'm guessing there.

So next question, where did you all get your A-Spec stuff? I can't seem to find it online anywhere, nor can I find it on Acura's site. I could be retarded, or maybe I just have to walk into my local dealer with cash?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Go to http://www.clubrsx.com
Everyone who has gotten the Aspec is now selling thier suspension. They would rather be smart and get something better for the cash.
Plenty of Aspec suspension to go around dirt cheap.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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That doesn't seem to be true. I've been looking for A-Spec stuff on CRSX for a while with no luck. I have seen a few posts from people who WTB the A-Spec stuff. But if I'm wrong, and EVERYBODY is selling their A-Spec stuff on CRSX because it's lame, then that's great for me.

But I searched the marketplace forum over there (and here) and didn't find anything. So either you're mistaken, or you could post a link?
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznbo1626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't have the aspec kit but I do have the ITR springs and struts. as far as I know they are the same. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Anyone know if this is accurate?
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcorad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Anyone know if this is accurate? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No one has proven if this is true or not true. I'd imagine they are close, but who knows. You'd need to dyno a set of springs and shocks of each to find out for sure.
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