is it any good?

 

i have not used the front mounted intake personally... but i have found out that.. with a CAI you get ambient temperature when you're driving anyway... i figure you cant' get more than ambient temps with out force cooling anyway.

 

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GHEY

 

front mounted intake=worst idea ever.

 

I think that if a company that actually had an R&D team to work on it (unlike AROSPEED) it could be a pretty effective ram air system. The temperatures of a cold air intake combined with 70mph air pushing into it (when driving) could be pretty good if it were excecuted well.

 

i thought they called them front mount interfoolers

 

GAY!!! Why would you want to have your intake exposed to the elements like that? Dirt and road grime would clog your filter so fast. Blah...

 

Are you talking about one of those "Fake" intercooler ones or some sort of ram air?

 

they work for ****...

 

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Sorry "ram air" is bullshit . The physics don't work out. You would have to go over 400mph to actually "shove" air into the intake. I think those things are ghey anyway. just get a CAI or short ram if you want (better in higher RPM then CAI) .

 

u faggit

 

its not as good as a cold air intake everyone needs to chill out a bit he just ask a question damn.

 

why you calling me faggit?

I JUST ASKED A QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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that was uncalled for

 

FRONT MOUNT air intake + a light or heavy rainy day = shopvac


exspect to be at high risk with this system. even with the "shield" that it comes with, yeah it might block out water, debris, bugs.. blah blah, but it will also deflect air.

and it looks like a fake *** intercooler too. its all small and a stupid square, or rectangle for you technical guys, that sits in the middle of ur bumper. doesnt belong


either stay away from it and save up ur money, or buy it, and i'll see your "help" post in about a week.

good luck

 

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alot of comments in this thread are uncalled for such as "it works for ****" etc.

many people on honda-tech find the first chance and start flaming on people. many of you here acually helped tho. and getting a CAI or Shortram would be cheaper and more effective then a front mount intake. and to the guy who said i though they were called interfoolers.. well i guess some people call them that seeing how they look so much like a intercooler. but dont be an *** about it. the guy ask a question, this is honda-tech. help him out. if your not going help then dont post. but to answer the question

there are people with front mounts on honda-tech, search it. and is it as effective as lets say.. a ebay intake? i really cant say seeing how i never had a front mount but what i THINK is that a CAI or a shortram would be a better choice for our cars.

 

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Sorry "ram air" is bullshit . The physics don't work out. You would have to go over 400mph to actually "shove" air into the intake. I think those things are ghey anyway. just get a CAI or short ram if you want (better in higher RPM then CAI) .</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm curious, what data do you have to say that ram air is BS.

A few years back a motorcycle mag did a test on ram air because more and more sport bikes have ram air. They never experienced positive pressure in the air box, but they did notice less vacuum in the air box. If designed and build correctly I do not see why you cannot a "ram air" intake would not yield benefits.. how much it to question.

NOTE: true RAM air is very hard to see results on a dyno.

 

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I agree with what your thinking, BUT look at motorcycles. Particularly Sport bikes. Almost all of them have some sort of ram air. My 2000 GSXR has 2 large opening from the front of the faring directly into the air box. I have ridden in very heavy rain (not very fun) and at high RPM's (75mph in 6th is about 7K). I have never hydo locked my bike. So one might think it could work on a car too..

 

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I agree with what your thinking, BUT look at motorcycles. Particularly Sport bikes. Almost all of them have some sort of ram air. My 2000 GSXR has 2 large opening from the front of the faring directly into the air box. I have ridden in very heavy rain (not very fun) and at high RPM's (75mph in 6th is about 7K). I have never hydo locked my bike. So one might think it could work on a car too.. </TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah but how low is the intake or "ram air" to the ground? if he has his car lowered, that intake's going to be about 5 inches off the ground. plus car's kick up water if they dont have any mud flaps

 

i saw one rice *** civic has...from far away i though that was intercooler..but when that car got little close i saw red filter middle of it.and only one side piping..he had grill..anyways...

 

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yeah but how low is the intake or "ram air" to the ground? if he has his car lowered, that intake's going to be about 5 inches off the ground. plus car's kick up water if they dont have any mud flaps</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is if you mounted it low, what if you mounded it in the hood(STI?).. I have never designed a ram air for a car, but I see what you are thinking. I'm sure you could design something that would work.. mmm I here project..

 

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That is if you mounted it low, what if you mounded it in the hood(STI?).. I have never designed a ram air for a car, but I see what you are thinking. I'm sure you could design something that would work.. mmm I here project.. </TD></TR></TABLE>


no, the "sti" on an integra would be over kill and alot of people would label it "rice". not worth the hassle.. my .02.


i still think utilizing a pipe up to your OEM box would be the best cold air.. or get an ice box or mugen intake for you guys that think the jap. writing gives extra HP..

dont have to worry about water gettin in, and it still brings in cold air from the front.

 

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B7!

but on topic... yeah, I have a SRI and I think it's a good way to go, I don't have to worry at all about water ingestion... well.. unless I go drive into a lake....

 

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I'm curious, what data do you have to say that ram air is BS.

A few years back a motorcycle mag did a test on ram air because more and more sport bikes have ram air. They never experienced positive pressure in the air box, but they did notice less vacuum in the air box. If designed and build correctly I do not see why you cannot a "ram air" intake would not yield benefits.. how much it to question.

NOTE: true RAM air is very hard to see results on a dyno. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have 2 sources of data to back me up. One is Physics and i guess the other is "Maximum Boost" by Corkey Bell. After reading what he had said about the ram air I had to look at the problem a lot closer. Considering how much CFM engines at high rpms even with volumetric effieciency no way can you go fast enough to have enough air molecules in enough of a time span make a difference in vaccum pressure. Now of course you will see a small gain since the air is entered easier and colder then a short ram or CAI, but the truth is you are still in a little bit of vaccum even at wide open throttle. Why do you think porting heads works so well? That's because the engine sucking air just got a bigger hose to suck through.

Thanks for being kind out calling me to question and I hope I explained this a little better. That front mount, though, is a comlpete waste in my opinion. The piping to go to that end and the "benefits" of having the colder air are very minimal. I would even question as to it producing better HP numbers if not worse, but I wouldn't know at all.

A CAI is great because of the slightly colder air increasing midrange, but you loose to a short ram in the high RPM range due to it's "short" design even if it's hotter.