2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit
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2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Armaan)
It's been out for a while now, and it's crap quality. There's another company about to start production, Dezod Motorsports that looks a lot better.
The best is still custom-built.
The best is still custom-built.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Vtaaak y0)
Nope, the only things we can use from the D16's are ARP headstuds and clutches.
Seriously... those are the only things we can use engine wise. It sucks.
Seriously... those are the only things we can use engine wise. It sucks.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo D17 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's been out for a while now, and it's crap quality. There's another company about to start production, Dezod Motorsports that looks a lot better.
The best is still custom-built.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you used the kit, or seen the kit in person? Are you judging the kit based on the way it looks, the way it performs, or the way it fits? Custom built kits are nice, but there is a reason why companies manufacture/assemble/bundle/market turbo kits. It's cheaper, easier, and more convenient to the end user.
The best is still custom-built.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you used the kit, or seen the kit in person? Are you judging the kit based on the way it looks, the way it performs, or the way it fits? Custom built kits are nice, but there is a reason why companies manufacture/assemble/bundle/market turbo kits. It's cheaper, easier, and more convenient to the end user.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (SOHC_MShue)
i got a 04 civic but right now the best kit comin out for the d17 is either dezod or custom all these other kits people have either got screwed or suk for more proof go to http://www.7thgencivic.com
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Armaan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Armaan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Have you used the kit, or seen the kit in person? Are you judging the kit based on the way it looks, the way it performs, or the way it fits? Custom built kits are nice, but there is a reason why companies manufacture/assemble/bundle/market turbo kits. It's cheaper, easier, and more convenient to the end user.
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I've seen it in person, I tried to help a friend install it. The manifold came with cracks already, we got those welded at an exhaust shop, and then the manifold cracked again after 2 days of sitting in my garage mounted to the head with most of the piping and the turbo installed (and yes, this manifold is advertised to be able to hold the turbo up with no additional bracing). The charge pipes did not fit well at all, some were at the wrong angles for the bends they were supposed to make, one was too short by 1" to meet up with the next pipe, and the downpipe was not long enough to meet up with the stock exhaust as it was advertised to be.
We took the kit off after trying for two days and sold it, the costs in redoing the pipes would have been too much, not to mention the constantly cracking manifold.
I will agree that a good quality turbo kit is a big convenience and money saver both to the end user and the company. When I said "The best is still custom-built." in my previous post, I was referring to the 7th gen Civics only, because there is no good quality kit out right now. Hopefully, Dezod will change that soon with their kit.
Have you used the kit, or seen the kit in person? Are you judging the kit based on the way it looks, the way it performs, or the way it fits? Custom built kits are nice, but there is a reason why companies manufacture/assemble/bundle/market turbo kits. It's cheaper, easier, and more convenient to the end user.
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I've seen it in person, I tried to help a friend install it. The manifold came with cracks already, we got those welded at an exhaust shop, and then the manifold cracked again after 2 days of sitting in my garage mounted to the head with most of the piping and the turbo installed (and yes, this manifold is advertised to be able to hold the turbo up with no additional bracing). The charge pipes did not fit well at all, some were at the wrong angles for the bends they were supposed to make, one was too short by 1" to meet up with the next pipe, and the downpipe was not long enough to meet up with the stock exhaust as it was advertised to be.
We took the kit off after trying for two days and sold it, the costs in redoing the pipes would have been too much, not to mention the constantly cracking manifold.
I will agree that a good quality turbo kit is a big convenience and money saver both to the end user and the company. When I said "The best is still custom-built." in my previous post, I was referring to the 7th gen Civics only, because there is no good quality kit out right now. Hopefully, Dezod will change that soon with their kit.
Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
ive seen one of those turbos on the tsi kits for an integra. and i gotta say .. those turbos belong on mopeds or motorcycles they're so friggin tiny . i swear the compressor blade is just a little bit bgiger than a quarter.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Armaan)
Hey Guys,
My Name is Jesse Pellegatto from Turbo Kits.com. I want to let you know I am here to answer any questions you may have about this kit.
The kit has been out, but was just redone to add the APEXi VAFC, APEXi Turbo Timer and a Boost Gauge. This is the new release of the kit. The price did not go up with these additions
The kit is a very nice kit, the quality of the parts are very good. I have never heard of any manifold issues, it comes with a 5 Year warranty.
To: Turbo D17. If the manifold was that bad from the manufacturer and kept cracking, why didn't you get it swapped out? Maybe you just got a bad cast... As for the piping issues, according to TSI those are worked out.
Again, this kit is a very nice kit, i have many happy customers with this kit. I actually have a guy in MD that put this kit on, and with some good tuning hit 13.5 in the 1/4 mile.
Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you all know I am here to answer any questions you may have
No flames Please, if you have a question I will be more than happy to answer it...
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
My Name is Jesse Pellegatto from Turbo Kits.com. I want to let you know I am here to answer any questions you may have about this kit.
The kit has been out, but was just redone to add the APEXi VAFC, APEXi Turbo Timer and a Boost Gauge. This is the new release of the kit. The price did not go up with these additions
The kit is a very nice kit, the quality of the parts are very good. I have never heard of any manifold issues, it comes with a 5 Year warranty.
To: Turbo D17. If the manifold was that bad from the manufacturer and kept cracking, why didn't you get it swapped out? Maybe you just got a bad cast... As for the piping issues, according to TSI those are worked out.
Again, this kit is a very nice kit, i have many happy customers with this kit. I actually have a guy in MD that put this kit on, and with some good tuning hit 13.5 in the 1/4 mile.
Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you all know I am here to answer any questions you may have
No flames Please, if you have a question I will be more than happy to answer it...
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (ludedude94)
To: project dc2
The turbo is perfectly matched for the 1.6 & 1.7L SOHC Civics. They get almost instant boost, full boost by 2500 RPMs (That is a high average) and pull all the way through redline.
A larger turbo is going to get you more power capability, but if you have not built your engine to handle it, all you give up is low end power.
Keep the questions coming
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
The turbo is perfectly matched for the 1.6 & 1.7L SOHC Civics. They get almost instant boost, full boost by 2500 RPMs (That is a high average) and pull all the way through redline.
A larger turbo is going to get you more power capability, but if you have not built your engine to handle it, all you give up is low end power.
Keep the questions coming
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (ludedude94)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludedude94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To: project dc2
The turbo is perfectly matched for the 1.6 & 1.7L SOHC Civics. They get almost instant boost, full boost by 2500 RPMs (That is a high average) and pull all the way through redline.
A larger turbo is going to get you more power capability, but if you have not built your engine to handle it, all you give up is low end power.
Keep the questions coming
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll have to say that it looks a lot better than the original version with the corrigated rubber intake hose....
The turbo is perfectly matched for the 1.6 & 1.7L SOHC Civics. They get almost instant boost, full boost by 2500 RPMs (That is a high average) and pull all the way through redline.
A larger turbo is going to get you more power capability, but if you have not built your engine to handle it, all you give up is low end power.
Keep the questions coming
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll have to say that it looks a lot better than the original version with the corrigated rubber intake hose....
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (ludedude94)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludedude94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To: Turbo D17. If the manifold was that bad from the manufacturer and kept cracking, why didn't you get it swapped out? Maybe you just got a bad cast... As for the piping issues, according to TSI those are worked out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We didn't swap it out because with the multiple fitment problems that the kit had (this was one of the first shipped out when the kit was released). The owner of the car decided to just wait a while. save up, and do his own custom kit. He got his money back completely for the kit, so he was content to wait and save some more money.
We didn't swap it out because with the multiple fitment problems that the kit had (this was one of the first shipped out when the kit was released). The owner of the car decided to just wait a while. save up, and do his own custom kit. He got his money back completely for the kit, so he was content to wait and save some more money.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
on your 01 civic. what are all the parts you had to get for your turbo so the engine running properly with no detonation or any problems of any kind. I am going to turbo my 03 civic and I want to do it properly so the engine will not get screwed up and last a long time.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (opto_isolator)
Thanks, the latest version of the kit has really worked out all of the kinks and is a very nice kit with aperfectly matched turbo. You guys will not be dissapointed.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
Ahhh, Gotcha... Well, like I said in the other post, I have heard only good things about this new kit. So any questions or concerns you might have, just ask
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (bradmanuwf)
The Kit Includes:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box) - This blocks the stock ECU from seeing boost
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
- Injector Control System Settings
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi SAFC
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauges
Both of the above options come at the same $2899 price
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- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box) - This blocks the stock ECU from seeing boost
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
- Injector Control System Settings
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi SAFC
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauges
Both of the above options come at the same $2899 price
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (bradmanuwf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bradmanuwf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on your 01 civic. what are all the parts you had to get for your turbo so the engine running properly with no detonation or any problems of any kind. I am going to turbo my 03 civic and I want to do it properly so the engine will not get screwed up and last a long time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Use a very accurate fuel system. The S-AFC and RSX injectors is an ok solution, but for now you're better off doing a return line conversion with the Emanage, or using a good additional injector controller. Just the S-AFC with stock injectors will not work above 4psi, the injectors will be over 100% duty cycle.
Dyno tune it. 99% of the people who have blown the new civic motors have not dyno tuned their fuel system, or did not install one.
I'm just using an additional 460 injector controlled by a Haltech F5, no changes to the stock injectors or pump. No changes to the stock timiing either, so I'm limited to 8psi on 93 octane and 10psi on 101 octane. The fuel pump won't flow enough after that.
I've been turbocharged for almost two years now, and the only problem I'm having is stretched head bolts, soon to be replaced with ARP headstuds. Never blown anything.
Use a very accurate fuel system. The S-AFC and RSX injectors is an ok solution, but for now you're better off doing a return line conversion with the Emanage, or using a good additional injector controller. Just the S-AFC with stock injectors will not work above 4psi, the injectors will be over 100% duty cycle.
Dyno tune it. 99% of the people who have blown the new civic motors have not dyno tuned their fuel system, or did not install one.
I'm just using an additional 460 injector controlled by a Haltech F5, no changes to the stock injectors or pump. No changes to the stock timiing either, so I'm limited to 8psi on 93 octane and 10psi on 101 octane. The fuel pump won't flow enough after that.
I've been turbocharged for almost two years now, and the only problem I'm having is stretched head bolts, soon to be replaced with ARP headstuds. Never blown anything.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo D17 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Use a very accurate fuel system. The S-AFC and RSX injectors is an ok solution, but for now you're better off doing a return line conversion with the Emanage, or using a good additional injector controller. Just the S-AFC with stock injectors will not work above 4psi, the injectors will be over 100% duty cycle.
Dyno tune it. 99% of the people who have blown the new civic motors have not dyno tuned their fuel system, or did not install one.
I'm just using an additional 460 injector controlled by a Haltech F5, no changes to the stock injectors or pump. No changes to the stock timiing either, so I'm limited to 8psi on 93 octane and 10psi on 101 octane. The fuel pump won't flow enough after that.
I've been turbocharged for almost two years now, and the only problem I'm having is stretched head bolts, soon to be replaced with ARP headstuds. Never blown anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when you say additional injector controller, how would you get that to work? Drill the IM for pico style injectors? I am wondering because i am looking to help a friend turbo his 2004 civic.
Use a very accurate fuel system. The S-AFC and RSX injectors is an ok solution, but for now you're better off doing a return line conversion with the Emanage, or using a good additional injector controller. Just the S-AFC with stock injectors will not work above 4psi, the injectors will be over 100% duty cycle.
Dyno tune it. 99% of the people who have blown the new civic motors have not dyno tuned their fuel system, or did not install one.
I'm just using an additional 460 injector controlled by a Haltech F5, no changes to the stock injectors or pump. No changes to the stock timiing either, so I'm limited to 8psi on 93 octane and 10psi on 101 octane. The fuel pump won't flow enough after that.
I've been turbocharged for almost two years now, and the only problem I'm having is stretched head bolts, soon to be replaced with ARP headstuds. Never blown anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when you say additional injector controller, how would you get that to work? Drill the IM for pico style injectors? I am wondering because i am looking to help a friend turbo his 2004 civic.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
single injector set-up?
I like the edelbrock setup with the additional injectors. Plus the software is very nice and tuneable along with timing, vtec point, as well as a controller for an electronic boost controller solenoid.
It works very well and i would like to use it in a system for a d17 if possible. The only problem would be that i would have to create my own rail/IM cutouts.
I like the edelbrock setup with the additional injectors. Plus the software is very nice and tuneable along with timing, vtec point, as well as a controller for an electronic boost controller solenoid.
It works very well and i would like to use it in a system for a d17 if possible. The only problem would be that i would have to create my own rail/IM cutouts.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (snoochtodanooch)
The Edelbrock vtec control will not work on a D17. My injector is a 460, more than enough for 10psi which is where the stock fuel pump gives out anyways. The D17 is a coil on plug ECU driven ignition, so make sure the Edelbrock can work with that.
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Re: 2001+ Civic D17 Turbo Kit (Turbo D17)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo D17 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Edelbrock vtec control will not work on a D17. My injector is a 460, more than enough for 10psi which is where the stock fuel pump gives out anyways. The D17 is a coil on plug ECU driven ignition, so make sure the Edelbrock can work with that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What is the management for the single injector? How does it know when to fire. I am guessing that is just adds fuel as boost increases, but i am just curious either way. I would just hate to run an FMU thats all.
What is the management for the single injector? How does it know when to fire. I am guessing that is just adds fuel as boost increases, but i am just curious either way. I would just hate to run an FMU thats all.
