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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 04:51 AM
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Im gonna be doing a b16 swap into my 88 crx si, and simply put, i was just wondering if the short shifters listed for a "88 crx si" would fit the shift linkage of a swapped b16. thanks,
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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what motor mounts and shift linkage do you have? i have place racing setup and i cant find an aftermarket ss that will work(not yet atleast)
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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How about getting one with an adjustable rod from the tranny to the lever.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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If you use the shortened integra shift linkage you can order a ss for an 88 si and use it.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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***DO NOT USE SHORT-SHIFTERS.***
go to acura and get a 00' type r shifter, then cut the part that the bolt goes through to match the width of your shift linkage and use your bushing out of your stock shifter and install it in the type r shifter. no syncro killer, no breaking and punching your cd deck. all for about $80
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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pm sent
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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**back from the dead**

Soooo, everybody and their mom has B swapped ED's, anyone else have a definitive answer? Would it make a difference if the linkage was Hasport or hacked-up DA teg?
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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I think the civic integra and crx use the same short shifter. I have a hasport linkage and I have a B&M SS that was for a 91 crx but would also fit integras civics and crxs.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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All the same then? Great, that's what I wanted to hear Thanks Matt
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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I just took the shifter and cut it down an inch using a hack saw, and installed an aftermarket ****.
I've been told by people with short shifter in their b16 crx's that mine feels much better.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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cutting the shifter= NOOOO unless its just for looks its not only abput feel but a ss actually makes the shift shorter by adding to the bottom part of the shifter not shortening the top...duh...
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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I am wondering this too, I tried just using my stock CRX shifter and the ball was to big.
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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by charliev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cutting the shifter= NOOOO unless its just for looks its not only abput feel but a ss actually makes the shift shorter by adding to the bottom part of the shifter not shortening the top...duh...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please keep your NOOOs and duhs to yourself.

There is a single pivot point on the shifter located at the ball. There are two leverage points, one at your hand and one at the bottom attachment to the shift linkage. Shortening either leverage point shortens the throw, the principle is the same. Go check out a physics book, or get a ruler and measure it yourself.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just took the shifter and cut it down an inch using a hack saw</TD></TR></TABLE>
The stock CRX one?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IO_303 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tried just using my stock CRX shifter and the ball was to big. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by insomniac791 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the civic integra and crx use the same short shifter. I have a hasport linkage and I have a B&M SS that was for a 91 crx but would also fit integras civics and crxs.
Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>
So we know the Hasport linkage definitely accepts the CRX shifter.

Anyone know for sure if the ED and DA shifters are the same??? Somebody e-pimpslap me and set things straight!
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Yes, the stock CRX one. Just attached my place racing linkage to it.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Quote, originally posted by charliev »
cutting the shifter= NOOOO unless its just for looks its not only abput feel but a ss actually makes the shift shorter by adding to the bottom part of the shifter not shortening the top...duh...

Quote,Please keep your NOOOs and duhs to yourself.

There is a single pivot point on the shifter located at the ball. There are two leverage points, one at your hand and one at the bottom attachment to the shift linkage. Shortening either leverage point shortens the throw, the principle is the same. Go check out a physics book, or get a ruler and measure it yourself....

So I know a bit about levers and physics, Ive always been taught that just by shortening the top of the shifter lever that it was doing something for the distance of your throw. Ive always been told that it is much more effective to move the ball of the shifter up on the rod to lengthen the bottom, Does it actually work both ways?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Well, you just have to look at it as two separate levers attached to the same pivot point. One lever goes from the pivot ball to your hand(this lever is longer) and the other lever goes from the pivot ball to the shift linkage attachment(this lever is very short).

Since the lower lever is very short already any changes to it's length (a la short shifters) will create a much shorter throw. In my opinion this throw is often too short and messes up the feel.

Shortening the upper lever by shortening it slightly only shortens the throw slightly which is the slight difference I wanted.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Shortening the top only shortens your thow of your shift by a tiny bit as compared to adding length to the bottom which will actually get the transmision into gear faster...and im not trying to bash on you, CRX7, I am just stating my opinion so chill out....
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