I am doing a rear disc brake conversion on my '92 Cx HB right now. I am using '94 Integra Rear Trailing arms. Acura told me that I cannot change the bushings on them and I have to buy a whole new trailing arm. A friend of mine said he thinks he could press out the acura ones and put in the new civic bushings (they appear to be the same)...is this possible or a waste of time and money? Or should I spend the money to get new trailing arms?

 

Yes, you can change the bushings in the trailing arms - you don't need to buy the entire arm.

 

can i use the civic ones?

 

lol Acura just wants to make some money off you

You can get new bushings pressed in

 

Do the trailing arms have to be removed from the car to replace the bushings? I want to do my Integra trailing arm bushings with ES poly ones, and my search brought me here..

 

no they do not have to be removed but it makes it a LOT LOT LOT LOT LOT easier

 

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Do not use polyurethane for the big trailing arm bushing. It needs to move on more than one axis as the suspension travels, and the big solid polyurethane bushing they sell does not allow enough movement, causing the suspension to bind.

Use only OEM Honda or Mugen bushings in the trailing arm for the best results.

And yes, plan on removing the entire trailing arm, unless you enjoy pain and suffering . . . and plan on an alignment after you reinstall the TA.

 

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I would say that the arms do have to be removed form the car. I also "think" that all of the 92-00 Civic and 94-00 Teg trailing arm bushings are the same. I have also been told when replacing the rear trailing arm bushing, Not to use Urethan or Poly bushings because they are not designed to flex like the OEM units. The dealerships used to only sell the entire Trailing arm assembly but I was told you can now get replacement bushings and not have to pay for the whole arm. But you do still have to pay someone to press them in for you, and press the old ones out (unless you get creative). and if you are not mechanically incline someone is going to have to take the trailing arms off the car too..

The only other aftermarket trailing arm bushings I have been recomended to use are the "Mugen hard Rubber" bushings which are made of a material much stiffer but still similar to the OEM material.

 

I just got the Mugen trailing arm bushings put in my 1990 REX Si....very nice, not harsh at all. The rest of the car has a full Energy Suspension kit installed...plus did the trailing arm compensator bushings and front rack rod bushings with OEM parts. Compared to the condition in which I bought the ride...I'm miles ahead of what it use to be like!

 

Where are the "front rack rod" bushings located? Do they connect to the trailing arm?

 

Pop your hood...look down by the radiator and you'll see a rod going from the lower front support beam under the radiator back towards your wheel. The bushings are located on the rod ends conecting to the lower front support beam.
When I replaced everything...I replaced everything. Big world of difference! The good part is the car looks like **** on the outside...just like the Saturday Night Live car from 10 years ago!

 

ya you can

 

I think your '90 Civic is a little different in the front than my '99 Integra.

 

i have the part number for the trailing arm bushing, found it in another HT thread, but don't have the thread handy here at school. ill find it and send you a PM with it

 

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Right. '88-91 Civics have what are called radius rods (sometimes referred to as "traction bars") that are attached to the front crossmember on one end, and to the lower control arm on the other end. '92+ Civics and '94+ Integras do not have these.

For reference, here is a pic of the '88-91 Civic LCA: http://www.hondaautomotivepart...9.gif. The radius rod is #5.

 

92-00 civic bushings will be the same size - 10" circumference

You can also get mugen ones...if you care

 

If the rear trailing arm poly bushings are of a floating piston design, they will not bind. Energy suspension and Prothane both use a non-binding floating piston design. Update your info please. Or prove me wrong.

 

read threw this thread it tells how they make the suspensio bind


and here is the part number for the honda trailing arm bushing 52385-sr3-000

 

Most likely man as your teg is like my 2k Si...

 

I wish the '92+ used these radius arms. I think they would help. I 've driven an '89 & 90 Civic HB standard & Si, and I think they handle much better than any '92+ Honda Civic or Integra (except maybe Type-R). I know they 're lighter by a couple of hundred pounds but those radius arms must be there for a reason (besides wheel hop).

 

I wish the '92+ used these radius arms. I think they would help. I 've driven an '89 & 90 Civic HB standard & Si, and I think they handle much better than any '92+ Honda Civic or Integra (except maybe Type-R). I know they 're lighter by a couple of hundred pounds but those radius arms must be there for a reason (besides wheel hop).

 

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search "traction bars"

same thing

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=778517

 

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search "traction bars"

same thing

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=778517</TD></TR></TABLE>

funny thing is that those acutally HURT handeling by limiting your suspension travel.

 

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funny thing is that those acutally HURT handeling by limiting your suspension travel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you experienced this yourself?

thats funny mine don't hurt my handling, i think they helped alot...

I would swear that higher spring rates and stiffer sway bars do the same thing...

 

Honda / Acura just want you to purchase the whole arm now - mainly because those components are from older generation cars.....

They are not so inclined to package and sell the parts separately.