block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?!

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Alright, i want to swap a B16a into my car.

My brother who knows everything there is to know about muscle cars but nothing about japanese cars, says that the guy he bought my CRX from. Built import cars. Likesay, he did engine swapping and ****.

Well, my brother said that putting a b16a, or any engine bigger than the one specified for my car will destroy my car. likesay, the axles will go bad, etc. And that nothing fits, the wiring and all that stuff doesnt fit. And it gives alot of problems to the car.

He said to just take the block of my engine to a machine shop and they will "tune it" and i will get massive horsepower from it.

I tell him whatever. Because my other two brothers both have B16As. One has one in his 1990 integra. And the other in his 89 crxSI. But i will admit, the axels did go bad on my brothers crx, i doubt it was from the engine though.


can anyone shed some light on this for me?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (dlszrfn)

Do a search. That'll be the most help evar.

And it won't ruin your car CRX's came with that engine so the USDM models are somewhat designed for it.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (skelly ed666)

If you do a b16 swap in the crx chassic you will need to use 90-91 integra axles which are built for a dohc motor....
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (dlszrfn)

your brother is one stupid mother. tell him he's full of ****... sounds like there is no way he even knows **** about musclecars.

and there is no way to take a block and "tune-it" to get massive power.. thats just some wanna be domestic-ricer bullshit. some people will argue the worth and power of a sohc motor, but when it all comes down to it if you want to go fast without a fortune into a motor, the d-series wont do **** for you.

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (dlszrfn)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dlszrfn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright, i want to swap a B16a into my car.

My brother who knows everything there is to know about muscle cars but nothing about japanese cars,
Well, my brother said that putting a b16a, or any engine bigger than the one specified for my car will destroy my car</TD></TR></TABLE>


this comming from a muscle car guy?? like you said he knows nothing about jap cars there are loads of people on this site that have succesfully maintained a b-series swap in a no b-series car.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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Funny, my B16A is much more reliable than the D15 was. It also gets better gas mileage, is mucccchhh quicker, and is more emissions friendly. Sounds like a hassle free upgrade to me.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (dlszrfn)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dlszrfn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright, i want to swap a B16a into my car.

My brother who knows everything there is to know about muscle cars but nothing about japanese cars, says that the guy he bought my CRX from. Built import cars. Likesay, he did engine swapping and ****.

Well, my brother said that putting a b16a, or any engine bigger than the one specified for my car will destroy my car. likesay, the axles will go bad, etc. And that nothing fits, the wiring and all that stuff doesnt fit. And it gives alot of problems to the car.

He said to just take the block of my engine to a machine shop and they will "tune it" and i will get massive horsepower from it.

I tell him whatever. Because my other two brothers both have B16As. One has one in his 1990 integra. And the other in his 89 crxSI. But i will admit, the axels did go bad on my brothers crx, i doubt it was from the engine though.


can anyone shed some light on this for me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are right about your brother not knowing a whole lot about Japanese cars. But like somebody else said people have been doing B series motor swaps for a long time.

About the things your brother said:

"it will destroy a car" - only if you do things incorrectly or you half-*** things

"axles will go bad" - If you use custom made axles from say raxles.com then you shouldn't have any problems. But if you modify a set of OEM axles like a set of 90-93 Integra axles to work with your swap, then you may or may not see premature wear. Some people have reported premature axle wear, others have not. You can get a set of used 90-93 OEM Teg axles for around $50, or you could get a brand new custom set for $300-$400.

"nothing fits" - The motor might look like it wont fit, but it will. Japanese and Euro spec Civics/CRXs in some trims came with stock B16 motors. And your B18 motor is only a few mm taller, otherwise all the dimensions are pretty much the same. Now if you are looking at an H-series swap or a K swap, you might run into fitment issues.

"the wiring and all that stuff doesnt fit" the most common solution to this problem is pretty simple: take the engine harness wiring for you stock 88-91 Civic/CRX and modify the engine harness plugs (if required) so that it will plug into the new engine you are swapping in. The engine plugs that go into the chassis stay as they are. Then depending on what OBD version you are going with, you may need to get an OBD conversion harness. This OBD conversion harness allows you to plug in your new ECU into your cars stock ECU harness. Then if you have a VTEC motor you are swapping in you add a few other wires.

So there you have it...check out the FAQ thread at teh top of the forum. Look at all the links for B16 swaps. I recommend droppedcrxsi aka. Ryan's swap page, because he has done both a B16 into his CRX and a B18C.

http://www.geocities.com/droppedcrxsi/

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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (BlueShadow)

Countless people here (myself included) have been driving CRXs with various B-series engines literally for years with no problems.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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oh and DONT go back to that "import shop" for ANYTHING. lol
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 05:26 AM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (crx_88_si)

I thought my brother was speakin crazy talk.
Thanks guys for helpin me out. when i do my swap, im gonna use those custom axles.

and i agree, if you half *** anything, it will mess up something. likesay, my brothers crx, i dont think he changed the axles, or he mightve used some from a integra.

either way, when we get to 50mph, the car rattles like ****.

but thanks guys!
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (dlszrfn)

sounds like your brothers shakin would be from the wrong intermidiate shaft causing the axles to bind. Tell him to get 90-93 teg intermidiate shaft. And alxes to go with it. SHould fix his problem
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (brent_G)

Bullshit, stock axles work fine for me.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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B16's come stock in CRX's. tell your brother to stick with his leaf spring rust buckets.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RockTheMullet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16's come stock in CRX's. tell your brother to stick with his leaf spring rust buckets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are u talking about? We are not in Japan Buddy
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Obviously your brother doesn't know **** about japanese cars like you said lots of people including myself have B16 in our CRX I didnt mess up our cars, but you will need (90-93 integra axels that's for sure
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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the reason a b-series engine tears a car apart is between the drivers seat and the gas pedal
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Default Re: block tuning or engine, B16a will destroy a CRX??!?!?! (dlszrfn)

In Japan, the CRX and Civic hatch come stock with the B16 or ZC. Nothing will happen to the chassis or any other part on the car. Tell your brother people are swapping 2.0 plus motors into them and have no problems. My EF has a JDM B16 and I am using http://www.raxles.com custom axles and HCP motor mounts. I have about 11K miles on the swap and is still running great. show your brother these pics and tell him my car is falling apart.

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