i want to swap my engine but i dont know witch one to do. i heard u get around 170 hp out of the b16a and 130 out of the zc but is the zc engine easier to swap or no

 

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The d16a will not produce 170hp in stock form. I would swap in a d16z6 or a zc. These are both fairly simple swaps and produce around 130hp.

 

go ZC (dohc) i'm doing it so we can start a trend.

 

well since you were talking that the ZC is easier toa swap...did you mean b16a?

 

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i saw ur thread about getting scammed, glad to see u got a motor man. what happened to that lil **** head?

 

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yes and no, just depends on what ur lookin for.

 

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A ZC actually IS a D16A. It's a D16A8/D16A9 to be specific.

 

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A ZC actually IS a D16A. It's a D16A8/D16A9 to be specific.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not entirely. a d16a8/a9 is the EDM version, 1 is MPFI, 1 is carb'd.

ZC is a DOHC 1.6 d series motor found in Japan.

you can get all the right parts for a ZC thru the net or a honda dealer, just gotta get the parts from different cars, IE, the timing belt, from an early prelude.

 

b16 is what i meant what would be better

 

but the b16 doesnt produce 170 hp

 

The b16a depending on the version and country of origin produces 150-170hp.

 

EDM B16A1 = 150HP
USDM B16A2/3 = 160HP
JDM OBD0 B16A = 160HP
JDM OBD1 B16A = 170HP
JDM B16B = 185 PS

http://www.bseries.net/html/specs/benginespecs.php

 

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Are you saying this from experience? I haven't had any trouble finding parts for my dohc zc. The only difficulty may be in determining which parts from which other engine work...but that's why there is HT and the internet...(lol). However, the parts are available.

 

try to find a header that is marketed for the DOHC ZC. You won't...you have to get the sohc d16 one and port match it to flow right. Just minor things like that make it tuffer to tune a ZC. The parts are out there...there's just less options, and less available. Can you bore out a ZC with a bolt on kit? You can say yes to that question with almost every other common swappable honda motor....so it is harder to find parts for it.

IMO...the best motor to swap into a ef/ed without going the b-series route would be a Z6 or a Y8. You'll get yourself in the high 14's with just a good intake, header, exhaust, and maybe a tuned/chipped ecu. Add a cam in the mix and you've got urself a nice motor. Not to mention that if you have 2 crx's, one with the zc swap, and one with the Z6/Y8 swap, they will both be very close from in a drag race. But, the Z6 will definitely pull away from a ZC on the highway (this is theorhetically speaking, if both cars had the identical setup) no flaming please.

If you have a little more mechanical experiece...build yourself a mini me. There are many ways to create a nice motor this way. These motors are better than a straight Z6 or Y8.
some good setup (the first code is the head, the second is the block)

Z6/B2
Z6/A6
Z6/B7
Y8/B2
Y8/A6
Y8/B7
Y8/Y7

They will give you a high 10:1 to near 11:1 compression and you will find yourself keeping up with b16 swapped rexes (as long as you are running an si tranny with the bolt on's i mentioned above)

 

i just want to know what engine would be the best and easiest to swap into my first gen crx si becuz it sounds like b16 swap is hard to do

 

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You should have mentioned you had a 1st-gen CRX in the first place.

http://www.redpepperracing.com can help you out. http://www.hasport.com has mounts for a few different '84-87 Civic/CRX swap applications.

 

oops....my bad...i thot u had an 88-91 crx...you have a first gen? what year is it?

 

lol easiest swap would be a d16a1 from the 87-89 tegs i believe.

personally, id just sell it and get a 5g civic.

 

If I were you I would go with the B16A1 swap. They are not that hard and they are relatively cheap.





Modified by sourskittles at 12:05 PM 9/14/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sourskittles &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now correct me if I'm wrong but don't the CRX and SI already B16A's in them? And dude Honda never made a CRX SI. They are two different cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Man, you are going to get flamed hard. Don't post unless you know for sure what you are talking about.

I'll be nice since you're obviously a noob:

- "Si" is a trim level (just like CX, DX, LX, EX, SiR, Type-R, etc.), not a specific car. There are the Prelude Si, CRX Si, Civic Si, and in some countries, even an Accord Si.
- The CRX never came with a B16A engine in the United States. The '88-91 (2nd-gen) CRX SiR/1.6i-VT in the rest of the world had a B16A, but Honda never brought that car here. This guy doesn't even have an '88-91 CRX though, he has a 1st-gen CRX - which never came with a B16A anywhere.

 

b16 is what i wanna go with cuz just havig aorun 170 hp my car would be amazing becuz my car ways less than new crxs but is their anything custom i would have to get besides egine mounts

 

i have an 87 crx si

 

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Man, you are going to get flamed hard. Don't post unless you know for sure what you are talking about.

I'll be nice since you're obviously a noob:

- "Si" is a trim level (just like CX, DX, LX, EX, SiR, Type-R, etc.), not a specific car. There are the Prelude Si, CRX Si, Civic Si, and in some countries, even an Accord Si.
- The CRX never came with a B16A engine in the United States. The '88-91 (2nd-gen) CRX SiR/1.6i-VT in the rest of the world had a B16A, but Honda never brought that car here. This guy doesn't even have an '88-91 CRX though, he has a 1st-gen CRX - which never came with a B16A anywhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>


daym noobs shellin' out misinformation....reminds me of myself back in the day...lol j/k.

btw...you got OWNED!!!

 

OK so I was wrong about the CRX Si. I just don't see many of those around me, and if I do, they are in such bad condition that I couldn't tell them apart from all those other CRX Gen.1 beaters around Dallas.

 

wow your an idiot. you should just stop talking now. u obviously have no idea what your talking about