I have a high mileage Del Sol and originally wanted to turbo it. I think I would rather have the reliability of N/A, so I was thinking about swapping a B18C - GSR engine in and doing all the internals and other goodies to it.
Can, and will this engine be able to get me into the 13s, posibly 12.5 N/A, if you have/or know someone who has accomplished this (in any car with a B18C) , what internals/bolt-ons did they use? What c/r are they running, and is it daily driveable?
I drive 60miles round trip every day in heavy traffic so the set-up needs to be reliable.
Hope you guys can point me in the right direction.
Oh yeah, my Sol only weighs about 2400lbs - so the power-to-weight ratio will be great

 

It's possible, but you are gonna need at least 210 whp to reach that goal...

 

What's the whp of the B18C? I presume the 180hp figure I see flying around everywhere is flywheel HP. I'm not too concerned about a specific HP goal or 1/4 mile time...just threw that out as a benchmark...as long as I can turn up to my local strip and blow the rednecks & hill-billys away I'd be satisfied.

 

sol=heavy

IMO boost it or strip it

 

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Exactly, and lighten up that Del Sol, b/c they are heavy weighing in at 2400-2600lbs.

 

lol blow hill-billy's away your funny dood ..anything is possible

 

Your cars a pig dude. gut the **** out of it or start of with another chassis. but it is still possible with your car just need $$$ in my opinion i'de boost it to compensate for the weight of your car..but im an all motor dude so ide stay NA.. it is possible..i wouldnt even doubt that you wouldnt be able to. pick up a B18 and start from there Adios.

 

i got a turbo kit for sale....

 

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lol.. "all motor is best" i'm assuming it was off your car from reading your signature.

delsol guy, don't give up, the sol has some potential.. you can do it!

 

I have a CRX HF with nothing in it but a seat, wheel, and tach, will a very little built B18C GSR and I can't run 12 without slicks, I run high 13 or low 14 with street tires. So dont forget the slicks. R

 

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you car is not light for a honda,

del sols are actually very heavy cars and thats why you dont see very many of them being worked on for all motor,

you're gonna have to make some above average hp to run the 12.5's that you want


civic hatches around 2200 lbs with drivers will need 200-205hp 135+lbs of tq
to run 12.50s with slicks

if you are a really good driver you may need less

 

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It is definately possible. I think you would need a little more than 210whp to do it w/a Del Slo, I mean Sol. Kinda heavy to start with. I ran a 12.70 @ 104 with 200whp with low 1.7's in the 60' weighing 2290lbs with my fat a@s in it! I did it with Skunk2 Drag Launch springs, Koni yellows set to the stiffest setting, 22x9 M&H slicks in front and skinnies in rear, Bogart Drag On Fly wheels all the way around, full glass, full sheet metal, built internals, ACCEL DFI, and good track conditions at E-Town and Maple Grove. All-Motor definately isn't the cheapest way to go about it but has to be the most satisfying way to run numbers especially when you blow the doors off some unsuspecting domestic heap! As far as reliability goes with running all-motor to this level IMO your reliability is beginning to go out the window around this point. Not that you can't but you sure have to have better luck with engines than I have had. Good Luck and stick to all-motor it is "all-impressive"!

 

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It is definately possible. I think you would need a little more than 210whp to do it w/a Del Slo, I mean Sol. Kinda heavy to start with. I ran a 12.70 @ 104 with 200whp with low 1.7's in the 60' weighing 2290lbs with my fat a@s in it! I did it with Skunk2 Drag Launch springs, Koni yellows set to the stiffest setting, 22x9 M&H slicks in front and skinnies in rear, Bogart Drag On Fly wheels all the way around, full glass, full sheet metal, built internals, ACCEL DFI, and good track conditions at E-Town and Maple Grove. </TD></TR></TABLE>


200whp, and what torque?????? Maybe you're a bad driver???

 

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200whp, and what torque?????? Maybe you're a bad driver??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You sure now how to display that you're a class act...... Yes it was bad driving, hadn't made a pass in over two years. New engine, different size slicks, all over the track, 2290lbs etc. etc.

 

sorry to say but the del sol looks much lighter then it really is.....
it weighs as much as a coupe if not more.
if you want to go reliable going N/A probably isn't the right thing
to do if you want those times.
only because you'd have to do a pretty nice build for that......
you probably can go oem bottom end and make enough reliable compression
then go full port job and big cams on the top..
i'll tell you right now you'd have to do some major cutting to get anywhere near
12.5's though..... once again not to streetable.
you should be in the mid to low 13's with a 210whp set up. if not go turbo
just my two cents.......good luck though.

 

I am currently building a coupe right now, as you know, a coupe is very heavy. with my motor, check the sig, I am shooting for 200hp, and to hit a 13 second 1/4 with minor wieght reductions. To run a 12.5 1/4 mile N/A, I would buy a hatch.

EDIT: to hit a 12.5 1/4, your car will need to lose alot of weight, and you need alot of MONEY. It probably would be cheaper to go turbo.

 

There is no replacement for displacement....if the same hill billys are at my track running 6.0's or faster that are at your track runnin 6.0's or faster you wont be smacking them around anytime soon....its those people with big gayass wings and stupid **** like that that give us true honda enthusiests a bad name...so let them know what you are about and they might teach you a thing or 2 because drag racing is drag racing no matter how you look at it...just my 2 cents..

cameron

 

of course its possible, heres an integra running 12.5 with just 12.5 compression cp pistions. which is very streetable with tuning.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=978173
i didn't mean "just" 12.5 compression... of course theres more to it.

 

Thanks everyone for your input...the helpful ones anyway I was only throwing 12.5 out as a distant goal...but it's good to know it can be done. And as for the ones saying it will cost a lot...let me worry about the finances, I was just wanting tech info
And let me stress this point....this car will not be a track bitch...so I will never be running against 6 second hill-billys...just want something that will make domestics sit up and take notice.

 

http://www.drjanestewart.com/darksol/showcase.html

Some weight redux on it, but nuff said. 12.4 ET

 

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Some weight redux on it, but nuff said. 12.4 ET</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahhh...I knew I had seen that somewhere, thanks for the link. So even if I kept my 'fat-***' Sol the weight it is....not that I'm going to, with that type of set-up I could expect to run 12.8-13.0 fairly easily...sounds good

 

So my post is what you were looking for I'm a hero.

I think he exagerated about weight redux though.

 

Yeah its possible. Im gunna be running B20 vtec in my 95 civic coupe and Im projected to run high 12's with mild work.

 

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and how did you come up with that magic number? was it by using one of those nifty online calculators?

 

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I was just letting you know that it will be alot of money to build a N/A motor, coming from personal expierence.

I was not worrying about your finances, I could car less how you get your parts.

Good luck with the build