hii guys it's come that time to decide on my engine swap.. hmm i dont want a typical GSR engine i was aiming for a LSvtec or a B20vtec .. umm wanted some power but didnt want to spend as much on a GSR .. i did some research found out that it was a little more expensive.. soo i came to this question.. which would u guys consider? a LSvtec or a B20vtec?

can u please give me ur opinions.. thanks guys!

 

B20/VTEC

 

either way its going to come out costing just as much if not more than a gsr if you want to do it right.

But of the two I would choose the b20vtec

 

kooo kooo .. well keep ur opinions coming =D

 

i would like to know this....if its worth spending 400$ more on a b20 or get the ls for like 600-800$...

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverCIVIC96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">either way its going to come out costing just as much if not more than a gsr if you want to do it right.

But of the two I would choose the b20vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with SilverCIVIC96.

 

b20vtec!

 

i would also say b20z/vtec

just by throwing in some different things at
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php

say you got a b18b block/ gsr head:

9.73 CR
1834 cc

now if you got b20z block/ gsr head:

10.1 CR
1973 cc


you will get higher compression and a 2 L motor going the b20 route

 

kooo thanx guys!

 

I have an ls/vtec in my 91 integra, the crank in the 1.8 block is alot stronger than the crank in the 2.0 block, I read an iteresting article in honda tuning about people spinning the bearing because the crank cant handle the high rpms that the vtec heads are meant to put out. whats the sense on going ls/vtec if you cant use the full potential of the head. If you build it right it is better than gsr but i think it will cost more. I also think b18 with b16 head is the way to go over crv. mine hasnt busted yet and i rev it past 8 grand every day. on stock components i ran a 14.9.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an ls/vtec in my 91 integra, the crank in the 1.8 block is alot stronger than the crank in the 2.0 block, I read an iteresting article in honda tuning about people spinning the bearing because the crank cant handle the high rpms that the vtec heads are meant to put out. whats the sense on going ls/vtec if you cant use the full potential of the head. If you build it right it is better than gsr but i think it will cost more. I also think b18 with b16 head is the way to go over crv. mine hasnt busted yet and i rev it past 8 grand every day. on stock components i ran a 14.9.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought the B20 crank and LS crank were the same?

 

ls block resleeved to a 2.0


and yes the ls and b20 crank are the same thing

EDIT for some eye candy.






Modified by ArinX at 9:38 PM 10/4/2004

 

ok im gay, i read somewhere that they werent the same, maby i read 2 much. but my setup is kick *** and strong, i recommend it.

 

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and yes the ls and b20 crank are the same thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Werd, the B20 also has a different sleeve design.

EDIT: Im retarded I was thinking you said a B20 was a bored out B18.


Modified by Vtaaak y0 at 7:50 PM 10/6/2004

 

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Ls/vtec what now hahaha

 

the b20 block has weaker sleeves than the b18 block.

 

ok i was thinking b18c and b20 crank, they are different.

 

The b20 has a weaker sleeve design since its bored to 84mm but has the same stroke as the ls 89mm, but that doesnt mean you cant build a b20 with stock sleeves that makes power. You also have to consider that you need to build the bottom end so you can rev it safely. It all depends on how much money you have and how much trust you have in your engine builder/tuner.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drchulo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The b20 has a weaker sleeve design since its bored to 84mm but has the same stroke as the ls 89mm, but that doesnt mean you cant build a b20 with stock sleeves that makes power. You also have to consider that you need to build the bottom end so you can rev it safely. It all depends on how much money you have and how much trust you have in your engine builder/tuner.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They arent B18 Sleeves bored out, it is a different sleeve design.

 

comparing a b18 and a b20 in the all motor categry is like comparing ****...

a b cup is good but a c cup is better but in no way is the b cup bad it just sux when compared to the c cup..... (b20vtec 234 whp all motor) b20vtec =

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecdamian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">comparing a b18 and a b20 in the all motor categry is like comparing ****...

a b cup is good but a c cup is better but in no way is the b cup bad it just sux when compared to the c cup..... (b20vtec 234 whp all motor) b20vtec = </TD></TR></TABLE>

***** and NA Honda's is where its at.

 

im running stock b20 sleeves w/ 12.5.1 full season 1100 hard miles from day one and still runs strong, tuned w/hondata s200 system..

 

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***** and NA Honda's is where its at. </TD></TR></TABLE>
sig material....
i would have to vote for B20/VTEC....

 

Vote is for B20/VTEC