Anyone using Neuspeed Sport Springs....?
I just purchased a set of the Neuspeed sport springs for my S2K and I was wondering if anyone was having issues with uneven tire wear. Is a camber kit necessary for these springs or is the adjustable camber that our cars have enough to make up for the drop? Any info/ input will be appreciated.
I have them on my S l like them a lot. All you need is an alignment with the springs, I installed them, waited, I think 2 months to let them settle, then did the alignment ! But now I rub cause I have 255's in the rear on 18" rims but the stocks have no problem at all with rubbing !
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Understatement.
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you don't need to wait 2 months. just wait about a week for them to settle in. the rears are severely cambered, and about the most positive you can get is roughly negative 2.75, IIRC.
there is no camber kit for this car. camber kits are made to extend shock travel and allow a little more adjustability with some shock mounts. where the adjustment points are on this car, this isn't necessary, nor would it help out.
make sure you get a good alignment, and watch the inners of the rears. if you are getting excessive tire wear it means you aren't exercising out in the twisties enough and instead, are favoring the straight and boring freeways of daily commuting.
Understatement.

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you don't need to wait 2 months. just wait about a week for them to settle in. the rears are severely cambered, and about the most positive you can get is roughly negative 2.75, IIRC.
there is no camber kit for this car. camber kits are made to extend shock travel and allow a little more adjustability with some shock mounts. where the adjustment points are on this car, this isn't necessary, nor would it help out.
make sure you get a good alignment, and watch the inners of the rears. if you are getting excessive tire wear it means you aren't exercising out in the twisties enough and instead, are favoring the straight and boring freeways of daily commuting.
I didn't realize that a 1.25 inch drop would be that significant...I'm not really sure that slammed is appropriate, but I could be wrong. I had skunk2 coilovers on my Type R, and had those lowered around 2 to 2 and 1/4 inches...now that was slammed. Anyhow, so the major thing to look for I'm gathering would be the rear tire wear on the insides. Any suggestions as to what kind of camber/ caster settings I would need to be out of the danger zone on uneven tire wear? I'm dropping $700 on new S-02's (for the stock rims mind you) and I'm gonna be pissed if they wear out unevenly. Thanks in advance guys.
Just get a good alignment ! thats it There is a thread on s2ki that shows an agressive alignment, that most of the members are raving about I think its time for me to get one also cause Im about to buy some new so3's and they dont come cheap in a 255-18 !
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Can you point me in the direction of this thread....that would be great. Thanks
</TD></TR></TABLE>Can you point me in the direction of this thread....that would be great. Thanks
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check: under the hood forum.
however, it doesn't really apply to you because of the springs in the rear. don't count on your S02's lasting that long, especially if you want them to wear evenly, or even unevenly. they are fantastic tires, but like I stated above, the most positive you'll be able to hit is about negative 2.75. and that is very aggressive, even on the track.
if you want it to wear a little less, then learn to use the camber to your advantage.
</TD></TR></TABLE>check: under the hood forum.
however, it doesn't really apply to you because of the springs in the rear. don't count on your S02's lasting that long, especially if you want them to wear evenly, or even unevenly. they are fantastic tires, but like I stated above, the most positive you'll be able to hit is about negative 2.75. and that is very aggressive, even on the track.
if you want it to wear a little less, then learn to use the camber to your advantage.
alignment settings are like candy, some people like them, others wont. Best thing to do is read up on setting up race cars, you can use the knowledge and apply it to your street car, taking note to toe, camber, caster. Once you figure this out, you'll be able to decide what you'll want your alignment settings to be.
If your alignment guy has an s2000 or is familar enough with the car to make recommendations, that would be a good place to start. Otherwise, you'll be shooting in the dark if you get other settings that people are "raving" about.
If your alignment guy has an s2000 or is familar enough with the car to make recommendations, that would be a good place to start. Otherwise, you'll be shooting in the dark if you get other settings that people are "raving" about.
Here you go if it doesnt work then you know the website its in the so cal section and it on page 8 title is Westends " agressive street" alignment do you have the specs.
http://<a href="http://www.s2ki.com/...nd...28510</a>
Vapor you should check it out see what you think there are a couple of spec.s on some of the alignments
http://<a href="http://www.s2ki.com/...nd...28510</a>
Vapor you should check it out see what you think there are a couple of spec.s on some of the alignments
TMKPRES: in regards to your statement, "...now I rub cause I have 255's in the rear on 18" rims but the stocks have no problem at all with rubbing.."
What wheels are you running and what is the specs? 18x? and what offset?
Thanks.
What wheels are you running and what is the specs? 18x? and what offset?
Thanks.
the rear a volk gtu's 18x8 and the offset is a +50 the reps at wolk said that was the only offset in the gtu's. So I think im going to sell them and get some SSR professor's.
How much rubbing are you getting?
I'm actually suprised because a +50 on an 8" wheel is pretty good. Its actually has more fender to wheel clearance than a stock '04 rear wheel. Some people are using 9" w/ +55 w/o rubbing and even some using 9.5" +51 w/o rubbing (of course on not on Neuspeeds - which are very soft) but they are lowered.
I'm actually suprised because a +50 on an 8" wheel is pretty good. Its actually has more fender to wheel clearance than a stock '04 rear wheel. Some people are using 9" w/ +55 w/o rubbing and even some using 9.5" +51 w/o rubbing (of course on not on Neuspeeds - which are very soft) but they are lowered.
Well most of the rubbing comes from freeway driving when I hit dips around 80-90 but when im driving regular around 65-70 its fine. It also rubs a little more when I have a passanger. But its only the driver side rear. I dont know maybe cause I way 180, I really dont know I hope that changing the struts to knoi's that will take care of the rubbing.
I just changed my setup to Koni's about 2-months ago. After putting the Koni's on, my ride lowered a little more. Compressing the Koni's and the stock shocks, the Koni's seemed softer on compression but you will definetly notice the difference in the Koni's on rebound. I think the Koni's were setup for a stiffer spring.
Looks like I'm going to have to go with stiffer springs when my wheels come in! I'm getting 9" +55 rears w/ 255/35 s03's.
Looks like I'm going to have to go with stiffer springs when my wheels come in! I'm getting 9" +55 rears w/ 255/35 s03's.
Yeah I think when I change to the konis Im going to get some GC coilovers with a custom spring rate. Wow your going to stretch your 255's over a 9" rim ! What rims are you going with !?
My brother in law LOVES his Neuspeed springs.
He only paid $134.95 plus shipping for them from http://www.mjmautohaus.com
Not sure if they're still on sale, though. They pretty much wholesale to businesses.
He only paid $134.95 plus shipping for them from http://www.mjmautohaus.com
Not sure if they're still on sale, though. They pretty much wholesale to businesses.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tmkpres »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here you go if it doesnt work then you know the website its in the so cal section and it on page 8 title is Westends " agressive street" alignment do you have the specs.
http://<a href="http://www.s2ki.com/...nd...28510</a>
Vapor you should check it out see what you think there are a couple of spec.s on some of the alignments</TD></TR></TABLE>
one alignment setting wont work for everyone. It's dependent on driver preference and style. While there are generalizations about handling behavior, one alignment setting does not apply to all cases either in terms of track only cars. Some factors are: tire sizes, sway bars, spring rates, valving on shocks, aero packages, etc etc etc. Since alignment settings are like candy, you basically need to try a few settings to see what you like best in terms of handling and tire wear (if daily driven)
http://<a href="http://www.s2ki.com/...nd...28510</a>
Vapor you should check it out see what you think there are a couple of spec.s on some of the alignments</TD></TR></TABLE>
one alignment setting wont work for everyone. It's dependent on driver preference and style. While there are generalizations about handling behavior, one alignment setting does not apply to all cases either in terms of track only cars. Some factors are: tire sizes, sway bars, spring rates, valving on shocks, aero packages, etc etc etc. Since alignment settings are like candy, you basically need to try a few settings to see what you like best in terms of handling and tire wear (if daily driven)
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one alignment setting wont work for everyone. It's dependent on driver preference and style. While there are generalizations about handling behavior, one alignment setting does not apply to all cases either in terms of track only cars. Some factors are: tire sizes, sway bars, spring rates, valving on shocks, aero packages, etc etc etc. Since alignment settings are like candy, you basically need to try a few settings to see what you like best in terms of handling and tire wear (if daily driven)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I know what your saying, I wish that alignments were as cheap as candy thought so that if I dont like the setting they would change it a new setting but I guess the only thing that I could do is basically give him my use of the car and see if he can come up with a goos "street" setting. But I guess I'll do that after I chage the suspension
one alignment setting wont work for everyone. It's dependent on driver preference and style. While there are generalizations about handling behavior, one alignment setting does not apply to all cases either in terms of track only cars. Some factors are: tire sizes, sway bars, spring rates, valving on shocks, aero packages, etc etc etc. Since alignment settings are like candy, you basically need to try a few settings to see what you like best in terms of handling and tire wear (if daily driven)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I know what your saying, I wish that alignments were as cheap as candy thought so that if I dont like the setting they would change it a new setting but I guess the only thing that I could do is basically give him my use of the car and see if he can come up with a goos "street" setting. But I guess I'll do that after I chage the suspension
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