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Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay?

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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Default Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay?

I have a b18c1 with crower stage 2 all motor cam shafts. I'm having trouble getting the intake camshaft to sit down properly. The second set of rocker arms closer to the distributor is holding it up from being layed properly.
If i try to push down on one side of the camshaft with the cam caps on the opposite side of the camshaft would pop up. Also, if I rotate the camshaft 90 degrees it sits properly on top of the rocker arms, but the cam gear marks wouldn't be at TDC.

What should i do? Is there something wrong or is everything is fine and continue bolting it down? Timing is set on mark. Exhaust camshaft is perfectly even along all rocker arms.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (SivikHatch)

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (SivikHatch)

I think the problem that u have is the valves are not open right now because the cam caps are not torqued. When u torque them the valves will open and it will sit flush.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (SivikHatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SivikHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. I'm having trouble getting the intake camshaft to sit down properly. The second set of rocker arms closer to the distributor is holding it up from being layed properly.
If i try to push down on one side of the camshaft with the cam caps on the opposite side of the camshaft would pop up.
What should i do? </TD></TR></TABLE>

after readin this post it kinda scares me that u are even attemptin to install cams.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (1 2 NV)

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (Hella_JDM)

I put a set of the stage 2 turbo cams in my car never had that problem I would not throw the caps on there and torque them down that's a big no no. Look it over real good. Also if the valve lift is over .430 on those cams you need to make sure you have ITR lost motion devices or very late model b16/GSR units or they will bottom out and cam breakage is possible if you can't figure it out goto theoldone.com and ask larry in the forum he can help you out..

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

after readin this post it kinda scares me that u are even attemptin to install cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree for sure.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (Booyakasha)

Bolt the cam caps and plates down, you'll be amazed!
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (SivikHatch)

just bolt down the cam caps and the cam will sit normal.Its pushing on the rocker which is pushing on the valve springs so it wont sit down evenly with something pushing it down.If it did than youve got valvespring issues.

And no,you do not need itr lma's to run the 402's..theyre not big enough need them.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (JDMotive)

550whp scaring me... im also running 402s. thanks for clarifying.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (SivikHatch)

Undo the tappet lock nuts and unthread the tappets. You should be doing a valve adjustment anyways when installing new cams.
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (IN VTEC)

^ good advice up there. I believe the cam wont even push the rockers if you loosen the rocker screws all the way. Then you just tighten back up when you dial in your valve clearance.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (Muaddib)

I just went to crower and looked the lift is .466 What year motor is this if this is a very late model B16 then it should have the new style LMA's if not then you will have to buy them like me and they are not cheap I thinks they are $46 a piece from honda. Here's a link with the pictures Larry from endyn told me this and in my opinion i don't think there's anyone more professional than him

http://theoldone.com/forum/top...,belt

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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (Muaddib)

Look at the link i posted
Larry from Endyn he'll verify anything you want to know I can guarantee there is nobody on this board as professional as him goto http://www.theoldone.com and goto the ask T.O.O forum and he will tell you the same thing I did he's the one that told me. I'm just here to share the info i'm not saying you will break your cams it's just a possibilty.

Seth
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 03:30 AM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (550whp)

Is there anyway of telling which LMAs while the motor is still in the car?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Crower Stage 2 All motor Intake Camshaft doesn't lay evenly... is it okay? (integmester)

You can keep the motor in the car you will have to pull the cams out to see for sure.You can see the LMA's with the cams still in but won't be able to see the wiper pad and to see if they are tapered.

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