As the topic says I am going to tap my stok GSR pan to add my autometer oil temp sender and I am curious where should I mount it? I am assuming low in the pan where the oil should be should it be as low and the drain plug? Higher and to the left? Any suggestions? Thanks!

 

Do not go into the bottom of the pan or the front. An off could rip it off, or out, and dump the oil. I'd be inclined to go on the back edge of the pan a bit above the drain plug. Make sure all the wiring is tied up well and high.

 

I have seen people mount the sensor inside the drain plud (drill and tap). I personaly do not like this idea. I chainge oil to much. I'm going to modify my oil pan this week. Basicly if you looking at the back of the oil pan, i'm going to mount in just to the left of the drain plug. I'll post pic when I get it done.

 

i mounted mine about 1 inch to the right and about 1/4 of an inch higher of the drain plug

 

This may be a stupid question, but I can not weld brass into the oil pan so I guess I need a bung of some kind, but I have not found one at all my loal stores. Where can I find one online? Thanks in advance!

 

check the FI forum they do this **** all the time

 

The simple solution...buy a temp sender that is the same size and thread pitch as the drain plug and replace the drain plug with it! The VDO sender that I bought 8 years ago is part # 323-055 M14 x 1.5mm. It looks like the OEM drain plug with a blade connector on it. Oil change = (1) unplug wire. (2) un crew sender. (3) drain oil. (4) replace sender. (5) plug in wire. Simple. No bung welding. No ground clearance problems. No oil change problems.

 

I had the brass bung brazed onto the oil pan just above the drain plug

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Track rat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The VDO sender that I bought 8 years ago is part # 323-055 M14 x 1.5mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And available for under $10.......

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_sen...Cart=

I wonder if this sender would work with my SPA guage.... hrmmm... might be something to try this winter.

Nash

 

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And available for under $10.......[url=http://www.egauges.com
Nash</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for posting this resource! I just ordered a spare!

 

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nice find... just ordered one myself

 

I used the adaptor method with my AutoMeter gauge and one day, while replacing the plug adaptor during an oil change, sheered the adaptor in two. The threaded section ripped right off of the adaptor body. Be very careful about using these adaptors in placce of your drain plug, and never, ever over-tighten it.
-Adam

 

This VDO part is solid brass and an exact fit to the existing drain hole in any Honda with 14 x 1.5 drain plug, and it is a good idea to use the Honda alum sealing washer, and to properly tighten it!

 

I just ordered one, and I'll be using my torque wrench on it just like always. Yay, my ricer gauge will finally be functional!

 

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Is this part VDO specific? or can you use a Autometer gauge with it?

 

Depends on the ohm range of the sender. If it operates within the same range as the guage, they will work together.

If accuracy is important to you, may want to avoid mixing brands.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mityVR6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used the adaptor method with my AutoMeter gauge and one day, while replacing the plug adaptor during an oil change, sheered the adaptor in two. The threaded section ripped right off of the adaptor body. Be very careful about using these adaptors in placce of your drain plug, and never, ever over-tighten it.
-Adam</TD></TR></TABLE>

this actually happened to my friend's BMW just last week. It seems like a pretty vulnerable spot to hang a sending unit out of. Rather mount it a bit higher, further out of the way

 

Yes, it happens with the AutoMeter adaptor because it's hollow to accept their standard 1/8" NPT sender. If you aren't careful about not over-tightening your drain plug, you can tear it into two pieces. VDO offers an actual sender in a 14x1.5 metric thread that is much stronger and can safely be used in the oil pan drain plug opening. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will fit Hondas.
-Adam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mityVR6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VDO offers an actual sender in a 14x1.5 metric thread that is much stronger and can safely be used in the oil pan drain plug opening. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will fit Hondas.
-Adam</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm gonna measure tonight to be ABSOLUTELY sure, but I'm sure that 95% of all late model Hondas have a 14mm x 1.5 oil drain plug. I've used this sender in a 1984 Civic, 1991 CRX, 1996 Integra LS and my current 1998 ITR. As for vulnerability to damage, if the drain plug is pointing at the ground I wouldn't do it, but the above cars have a rear facing hole low in the pan. I've hit a gravel trap in the 1984 Civic, and flattened a header with the ITR without damaging the sender. (perhaps I should stay on the track more?)

 

why not T off from the stock pressure sensor? the oil at that spot is straight from the pump & hasn't really been through the engine yet...

 

I already have enough T's going for the oil pressure so I want no more lines off of the T. Regardless, I am looking at that plug and although it may be easier to me it seems to be half-a$$ing it. I need to take the pan off to baffle it regardless so I am thinking why not do it right with minimal risk to future problems? I found a bung here that might be the right one...

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_acc...Cart=

I think I would need part ATM-2260

Right? Isn't the sender 1/8 NPT?

 

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Is this part VDO specific? or can you use a Autometer gauge with it?
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I have the VDO sender with Autometer gauge and it doesn't work properly. When it comes up to temp, it pegs at 300 degrees. I am pretty sure it is beacuse the Ohms are different on the two parts. The Autometer sender reads, -24 and the VDO reads something like -26.....since those are the only two identifiable #'s on the senders, I am assuming they refer to Ohm range?

Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Can I wire in a resistor or something?

 

If I were to do it again (and I might be very soon) I would have the pan drilled and a bung welded into the side of it. That way the sensor never gets touched again after it's installed and the drain plug can be left to what it does best.
-Adam

 

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I'm gonna measure tonight to be ABSOLUTELY sure, but I'm sure that 95% of all late model Hondas have a 14mm x 1.5 oil drain plug. I've used this sender in a 1984 Civic, 1991 CRX, 1996 Integra LS and my current 1998 ITR. </TD></TR></TABLE>

For the record...I measured the stock drain plug... 14mm x 1.5 and the VDO part # is 323-055 for a 300 deg oil temp sender to repalce the drain plug, which is compatible with a VDO elec gauge.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mityVR6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were to do it again (and I might be very soon) I would have the pan drilled and a bung welded into the side of it. That way the sensor never gets touched again after it's installed and the drain plug can be left to what it does best.
-Adam</TD></TR></TABLE>

I may end up doing this if I can't get that VDO sender to work with my Autometer gauge...