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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Default PHOENIX YELLOW: CLEAR COATED OR NOT?

I just spent a ton of money on detailing supplies for my R. My major concern is in the polish, it works just fine on my buddies VW, but on the PY R, it streaks and ends up looking like ****. Anybody know whether or not PY's are clear coated (I'm assuming they are). Also, anybody discover a way to apply polish and not have it streak horribly on PY?? I'm pissed that I just dropped a boat load of cash and I can't even use it on my car.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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see the shine in the paint? yes.....thats clearcoat.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by w@@t w@@t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see the shine in the paint? yes.....thats clearcoat. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey, **** off *******, tons of people have stated in the past that there is a difference in the PY paint when compared to others, some even go as far to say it's not clearcoated. Keep your bullshit comments to yourself, anybody have anything meaningfull to add to this post???
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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oh. i'm sorry. i didnt know you were a big enough fucktard to actually believe people who claim there honda doesnt clearcoat b/c of certain colors

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by w@@t w@@t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh. i'm sorry. i didnt know you were a big enough fucktard to actually believe people who claim there honda doesnt clearcoat b/c of certain colors

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Man, you're the biggest e-bitch ever, go wipe your ***** somewhere else.

Anyone else have this problem? I cannot seem to apply polish to my PY w/o it streaking everywhere and looking worse that when I started, it has done it w/ 2 different brands.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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*yawn*
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Man, you're the biggest e-bitch ever, go wipe your ***** somewhere else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, but that was funny. And true. lol
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Yes it is but, very thin. I wouldn't recommend it at all. Use a clay bar then wax. She should look new after!
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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ahahahah.. this be some funny *** ****!

BTW, Every car since the Ford Model T, came clear coated. If it's shine, then it's clear coated.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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i've owned mine since new('01 PY), and i've been pretty **** about what kind of product i use. i've probably used about 2 or 3 types of waxes/polishes since and i havent run into your problem yet, luckily. i think yellow, like white or silver are fairly forgiving colors when it comes to variations in the paint showing streaks and blemishes due to them being so light...

it sounds like you bought some higher end products, so it cant be that...make sure you polish in the shade when its cool, and maybe dampen(not soak) the wax applicator with warm water. put only a "thin" coat of wax at a time....try not to go over the same spot.

try it, works for me, and my friend told me the last time that my R looks like it came fresh out of the showroom
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Stop the flaming and profanity, please. We've seen too much of that around here lately. This place should be for good advice and information, and if you keep that up, the topic will get locked before you get any.

Why are you even using a polish, anyway? (By polish, I assume you mean something abrasive to the finish.) Is your paint all scratched up or full of swirl marks? If not, don't use polish.

After washing, use a product that removes oxidation and surface contamination (e.g. clay bar, Zymol HD-Cleanse, etc), and then use a wax.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Nsxtacy, I'm well aware of the other options out there. My paint has some severe oxidation and water marks that will not come off w/ regular washing or even claying. Polishing w/ a DA buffer is my next step.

Lucky R, how often do you polish, this is the only step that hasn't gone smootlhly for me, wax goes on and off fine, it's just the polish that gives me a headache
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR 2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, Every car since the Ford Model T, came clear coated. If it's shine, then it's clear coated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's incorrect. Clear coats are a relatively modern addition to automotive paint. The automotive painting process and materials have both changed quite a bit since the early 1900's.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nsxtacy, I'm well aware of the other options out there. My paint has some severe oxidation and water marks that will not come off w/ regular washing or even claying. Polishing w/ a DA buffer is my next step.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, then it makes sense that you're using a polish. Thanks for explaining.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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Our wheels have a clear coat.... so I would guess that the body would have a clear coat too....
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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This is usless post #10 in this thread.

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Todd Bertuzzi wears womens underwear.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sackdz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Todd Bertuzzi wears womens underwear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe it's "pink panties". lol

here it is:

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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lol nice nice... while a little off topic here, what do you guys think is the best way to get rid of exhaust suit on the rear bumper/trunk/wing? Like does clay bar work as well as people say it does, because I have just been sticking to zymol and it seems to do okay... but I need to get one good deep clean in before the R goes into storage for the winter... still a lil ways away... as far as polish goes... didnt think you could do that (to abrasive to the car) but then again... what do I know? lol anyways good luck on the whole polish thing and if anyone can tell me what to use to get rid of the suit, I would appreciate it greatly
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nsxtacy, I'm well aware of the other options out there. My paint has some severe oxidation and water marks that will not come off w/ regular washing or even claying. Polishing w/ a DA buffer is my next step.

Lucky R, how often do you polish, this is the only step that hasn't gone smootlhly for me, wax goes on and off fine, it's just the polish that gives me a headache</TD></TR></TABLE>

goose, find a light paint cleaner such as 3m imperial hand glaze. the key is to use the least harsh or abrasive product on your paint to get the job done. meaning to say, you could use a rubbing compound (very harsh) and get great results - all the while you have removed a ton of clearcoat and/or paint. a lighter/milder product might give you the same results, yet without removing a lot of paint.

here's a list to step i usually take when doing a full detail:
wash
clay
wash
3m imperial hand glaze
wax

but if the mild cleaner can't remove the oxidation, you will have to go one up on the level of the cut of the cleaner.

good luck!

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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NO clearcoat on PY... i learned that 2 years ago when i rubbed some fine polishing compound on..... color came off!..
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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RGoose, the easiest way to find out if you have clear coat is to use a paint cleaner or use the polish that you have. If yellow paint transfers to the cloth that you are using then you have a single stage paint job(clearcoat/basecoat). If there is no paint transfer, then you have clearcoat. You might have streaking because you are using too much product or you are not working the product in long enough.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Its clear coated homie, i work at a bodyshop
As for ITR2k,,,, all Red 93-up mazda Rx7s in the US came unclearcoated. Thats why they all tend to look like *** if not taken care of... :-)
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's incorrect. Clear coats are a relatively modern addition to automotive paint. The automotive painting process and materials have both changed quite a bit since the early 1900's. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Apparently some people don't know sarcasm.
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