Considering the proven performance and reliability this set up offers for PRIMARAILY for Auto-X and then for daily street use, are there any other Coil over setups which provide the same level “value for the money” aspect?

A typical GC Coil over + Koni (with custom spring rates) combo set up will cost around $850. Prices for Tein and Omni power system seems to be around this range, I am wondering if these systems offer similar Auto-x and street characteristics.

Anyone here with experience in Auto-x with Tein or Omni power or any other similarly priced coil over systems?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schumi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering the proven performance and reliability this set up offers for PRIMARAILY for Auto-X and then for daily street use, are there any other Coil over setups which provide the same level “value for the money” aspect?

A typical GC Coil over + Koni (with custom spring rates) combo set up will cost around $850. Prices for Tein and Omni power system seems to be around this range, I am wondering if these systems offer similar Auto-x and street characteristics.

Anyone here with experience in Auto-x with Tein or Omni power or any other similarly priced coil over systems?
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GC koni is more effective than any sub 1000 dollar coilover kit.

 

Looks like most of the under $1000 full coil over systems are for just for lowering the car/blink factor??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schumi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like most of the under $1000 full coil over systems are for just for lowering the car/blink factor??</TD></TR></TABLE>

i gotta disagree with that. based on a lot of 'internet' reviews ive read for something like omnipower full system, its just geared for street driven vehicles. im going to defend those who simply want a good or better handling car for their car which for the most part remains a daily driver.

however, i dont like it when ppl start to confuse or adopt racing parts and setups for street driving. and not just parts, but driving behavior, like feeling the need to double clutch shift or getting their car to rotate just right thru a windy road. but thats just me ranting maybe.

even the OTS koni/GC setup seems like a compromise for a budget, introductory suspension for the beginning racer. it gets you on the track with minimal concern over suspension setup and focused on seat time and actually learning to drive. this probably goes for the omnipower setup as well. but eventually for REAL racing setups, if you want to be competitive, its going to require a lot of customized setting up, and a lot more seat time anyway.

 

just trying to understand this better.

but in order to get the full potential out of a koni yellow, dont they need to be revalved to the appropiate spring rates?

just curious.

 

off the shelf Koni's can reliably handle rates up into the 500-600# range without any problems. People have even run 700-800# rates on OTS Konis... not sure what type of spring rates you consider "appropriate" though

Christian, who's idea of "appropriate" spring rates keeps getting higher and higher

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1Guru &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just trying to understand this better.

but in order to get the full potential out of a koni yellow, dont they need to be revalved to the appropiate spring rates?

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i guess i'll set the stage for lee to come in with some rock hard info, but OTS Koni's are much more consistent in their damping than any of the other shocks that are not motons, penskes, or bilstein. what makes konis great are that they do what they are supposed to, and do it well, are versatile (can be used from street to road course with the same OE valving, though a revalve is necessary for the more "committed") and when coupled with GC's w/ custom rates, are on par with some of the better suspensions out there. In the end, if you want to go with custom rates on a full coilover set, you're plopping down another 100-200 bucks @ hypercoil or ERS for new springs, where you could let GC do the groundwork for you and not pay extra.

though it's rare that someone finds a spring rate they like right away and sticks with it forever, at least you're not stuck with the weirdo Tein 8kg/mm 4kg/mm rates on their SS kit.

 

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even the OTS koni/GC setup seems like a compromise for a budget, introductory suspension for the beginning racer. it gets you on the track with minimal concern over suspension setup and focused on seat time and actually learning to drive. this probably goes for the omnipower setup as well. but eventually for REAL racing setups, if you want to be competitive, its going to require a lot of customized setting up, and a lot more seat time anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have seen alot of toatly dedicated track car run yellows/gc combo.

then again i do know what you mean, when there are things like AD's and so on

 

I think the general opinion seems to be that the GC + Koni combo will outperform
a less expensive (less than $1000) full coil over system on Auto-x course or a track.

A Full coil over system may be more suitable for Primarily daily driving + occasional Auto-x/track usage

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schumi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A Full coil over system</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please explain how the Koni/GC setup is not a "full coil over system"

 

he just means integrated threaded shock body with "matching" springs. hey, at least theyre not calling them "true" coilover systems.