Anybody know where to find info on powder coating?

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Default Anybody know where to find info on powder coating?

Want to find out how to power coat my own stuff at home. Want to know where I can buy supplies, and the process involved in powder coating.

Links are fine.... I searched in here and ran a quick google search with no luck. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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check out Harbor Freight for a DIY powder coater

http://www.harborfreight.com
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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^^ do I need the OVEN with that??
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRTY FACE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ do I need the OVEN with that??</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is what make power coating tough is the baking. Yes you will need an oven but you dont have to get that one. You can use moms oven and put it on self clean so the temp gets to about 600.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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only problem is mom will kick your butt when dinner tastes like your freshly painted valve cover..lol.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 30psiCiv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is what make power coating tough is the baking. Yes you will need an oven but you dont have to get that one. You can use moms oven and put it on self clean so the temp gets to about 600.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or you can buy an old electric oven for the garage. The DIY stuff only needs to be baked at 450 deg.

They also make baking "lights" for curing powder coatin, but I'm not sure how qell they work??
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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The Eastwood Company in PA. Very good stuff. Not just powder coating but general restoration.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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my granfather owns the largest facility on the eastcoast, its not hard, but dont attemo to use the baking lights unless your making cookies.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Check out my forum, http://www.finishingforums.com

Dont use your mothers kitchen oven, powders do give off some fumes,and any oil in the valve cover will stink it up. IR lights work, but they are tricky to use and not worth the money or time. Just pick up a old kitch oven. Most of your curing and temps will be between 350 and 410 F.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Most everybody I know who does this gets old ovens people throw away during spring cleaning or whenever cause most still work.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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I have been using the eastwood kit for about 3 years now and its so perfect for the size and what it can do , I also have a dedicated oven for the stuff i do ,so it works out good
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Caswell Plating used to have a pretty active forums area on this topic. I haven't been there in a while, but I am sure you can find some good information there.

Its really not that difficult, but I would NOT recommend using an oven that will still be used for preparing food. And there are times it may give off some pretty bad odors or if you don't clean that valve cover before baking it, your house will fill with some really nasty smoke. (experience...lol) The most difficult/important part for the DIY (like most things) is the prep part of it all. Spraying and baking is pretty simple, just do a test piece or two to get a hang of the way the powder flows from the gun. Most powders bake between 350 and 450 degrees.

I bought one of the 40 pound sandblasters at Harbor Frieght Tools and the thing was a huge PITA! Luckily I am able to sneak into the fab shop at work and use the beadblasting cabinet.

I also bought and used the powder coating kit sold at HFT when it was on sale for like $59. Its been a great little setup! I done every piece of my suspension with it and few other parts and it worked great.

A great place I found to buy powders is Pendry Powder Coatings. They have some great prices and good selection. They'll also do your parts for you for a really resonable price. They had to do my trailing arms, sway bars and new gas tank because they obviously won't fit in a standard oven. I believe with shipping to and from and the work they done all those parts only cost me about $130.

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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Don't buy powder from Pendry Powder Coating. They sell old used and abused powder. On your statement, when they ship you your powder, look in the lower left hand corner. It says something along the lines of "All powder is sold as surplus powder and seller herein takes no responsibility" Old powder gives crappy results because all the very particulate gets used up, and the larger peices are what fall to the ground and get reclaimed....just dont get the same results.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRG-Coating &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't buy powder from Pendry Powder Coating. They sell old used and abused powder. On your statement, when they ship you your powder, look in the lower left hand corner. It says something along the lines of "All powder is sold as surplus powder and seller herein takes no responsibility" Old powder gives crappy results because all the very particulate gets used up, and the larger peices are what fall to the ground and get reclaimed....just dont get the same results.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? Of course I can't put my hands on my receipts at the moment but I don't recall seeing that. I've used about 4 of their powders and had great mirror finished results. I've emailed them to ask that they confirm this comment about their selling surplus powders.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Yep, they sell dirty used powder. Old powders will cause orange peel, fish eye, and lots of minor imperfections.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Thank you for all the great feadback and good talk. We sell nothing but the best from Tiger,Rohm&Haas,PPG,Dupont and Spraylat . We sell what we use in our shop and never sell old or used powder. We purchase for us and sell our surplus.
This word surplus only says that we sell what we order thats more than we use.
There are some great parts here and good pics. Glad we could do such a good job.
Thanks PPC
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRG-Coating &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, they sell dirty used powder. Old powders will cause orange peel, fish eye, and lots of minor imperfections.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to hijack the post any further, but you still haven't given any basis for your claim that Pendry sells dirty or old powder. If you are going to post negatively about something at least be able to substanciate your claim.

I know the powders I have ordered and used from PPC have performed as advertised and they have provided excellant results. Possibly its your setup that caused you to have problems, if that is what you are basing your negative comments on. There are a few other things that will cause orange peel and fish eye besides old powder. The primary one is poor prep of the parts.

It is always so easy for people to get on these types of forums and give out bad technical advice and its always so easy to state negative claims, but if you are going to do so, at least provide some reasoning as to what you base your claim on!
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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It is not my equipment, believe me. I have ordered several powders from them for small batch work, and found lint and other characteristics of used powder such as a poor content of metallic pigments. Their morton corvel chrome, which is a bonded metallic that wasnt properly store, When cured in a higher mil, the metallic pigment cracks. This should not, and does not happen on fresh powder. Poor prep is not the problem, crappy, improperly stored powders are. I do not make false claims, i make claims based on experiences i and others have had.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 04:59 AM
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Ok lets stop this here . All our powder has production codes as well as box # and expiration. If someone want's them with there order we are glad to give them.The powder is very fresh and if you found dirt or lint it's from yourself .
When our bag person bags powder they use a full lint free paint setup from PPG.
We have a 40x30 building climate control storage and the relitive humidity never exceds 40% . with a balmy 70 degrees .
Oh cracks in your met. is where you sprayed it to heavy and thats not what bonded means anyway.
We enjoy a good chalenge and the chance to advertise our great sucsess in sales and service .
We have made great sucsess in the powder market due to our top quality coatings and great prices .
This is one of many great sites that show our progress .
Keep up the good work and watch for a custom Honda in our Gallery.
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