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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:12 PM
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What do you guys think a 00' almost stock Si will put down at the wheels?? THe only mod is a AEM short ram intake.
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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130whp or so.
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:21 PM
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id say 139-143hp, and 99-103tq

now that car would be the "ultimate honda"
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:23 PM
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yeah I may have been on the cautious side...but I doubt it will see 140whp.
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:23 PM
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Some one told me that the short ram makes my car loose power. Is that true???
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:23 PM
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i was reading in SportCompactCar that the normal loss from supposed stock horsepower is about 10-15hp. Which means every stock motor is never what it's supposed to be. That's gotta suck.
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:25 PM
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i was reading in SportCompactCar that the normal loss from supposed stock horsepower is about 10-15hp. Which means every stock motor is never what it's supposed to be. That's gotta suck.
actually its about a 15% loss through the drivetrain.
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:26 PM
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so having a short ram makes me loose power????
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 05:55 PM
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Basically you're engine is sucking hot transmission air with a short ram. I learned that the hard way so i used my short ram and my stock intake to make a cold air. It's easy and you don't have to spend any more money. Or you could box off the short ram... up to you.


[Modified by 93GBlackDelSol, 2:56 AM 12/3/2001]
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Old Dec 3, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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its called parisitic loss, and it is incurred threw your accesories, ie, power steering, the wheels spinning, all these suck power from an engine, most honda's are around 15%, some of the new ones like the rsx are closer to 12%
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Old Dec 3, 2001 | 02:16 PM
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so having a short ram makes me loose power????
No, it inceases power.....with the ease of the air it breathes you gain power.
Standard gains with a cone filter are 2-3 whp.
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Old Dec 3, 2001 | 05:10 PM
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for a stock b16a with a 3" intake, it will cause it to lose torque. go with a 2.5" intake from aem instead. It will work better for a stock motor. There is only so much air a motor can breath.. and the motor needs pressure to gain torque.
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Old Dec 3, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Hp At the wheels? (Brian*Black99Si)

SO you have both intakes and it didnt make a diff? Also if anybody has a front lip(electron blue) from a 99 or 00 si for sale let me know.
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Old Dec 3, 2001 | 07:26 PM
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I'm with Brian, I have short ram w/ the extender, I can feel no difference between the two, and I prefer the sound of the short ram.
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