I had ordered KG/MM Supersport springs with koni yellows, but unfortunately I was shipped KG/MM Race springs with the konis. I have heard mixed reviews about how the kg/mm race springs and koni yellow shocks are a bad combo(too stiff) and how some people think it's a good setup.


now tell me, should i keep the race springs or return them for the sport springs. the drop is not a big issue, its the ride and handling i'm concerned about...especially the way these springs react with the koni yellows.

all input is appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

what are the spring rates?

 

front: 8.9/3.5K
rear: 9.8/4.0K


i can handle stiff suspension BUT not VERY VERY stiff.

btw if i do decide to return the springs and wait for the correct ones, it'll take up to another 2-3 months. what a pain in the ***.


Modified by Razor at 2:58 PM 8/18/2004


Modified by Razor at 2:59 PM 8/18/2004

 

those are progressive rate springs? I thought the race springs were linear. or... ?

 

You could always find someone to trade with.

I'd say to just get what you really want. Patience always makes it worth it in the end

 

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the race springs are also progressive rate. any other input?

 

if you think they will be too stiff, just wait. it's only a few months away from instant gratification. otherwise, you'll be guessing and guessing. but you could always put those on in the mean time, and see how you like them, and turn around and sell them at a depreciated cost. however, you'll lose some bucks out of it, even if it is only installed on the car with zero miles on the springs. it's a gamble, but you don't seem too confident in liking the race springs, so go with what you want.

hmmmm. race springs should not be progressive.

 

thanks for the reply.

btw check this link http://www.gruppe-s.com/S2000/s2ksus/kgm_r.htm

it says progressive

 

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you seem to know a lot about suspension, what do you think about this setup?
spring rates have been listed at this link http://www.gruppe-s.com/S2000/s2ksus/kgm_r.htm

 

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i dont know ****...please explain why progressive race springs are bad....and what is a good race spring???

Ricky &lt;----------------needs "suspension 4 dummies vol. 1"

 

there are two types of springs: linear and progressive.

- progressive springs mean that they are quite soft and bouncy but when they are thrown into a hard corner, they stiffen up. if you look at a progressive rate spring, you can see how the coils are tightly wound near the top and bottom and loosely wound in the middle.

- linear rate springs are would the same all throughout the entire coil. no matter if it is a soft bump or a hard bump, it will still be an 800# spring holding the car up. the progressive rate spring might start off at 200# but as the jolt gets harder, it will increase to 450#.

I hope this makes sense from a non-engineering type of answer. search away on various definitions out there. but keep in mind, springs do not control the shock absorber/dampener, it's the other way around. the spring is what controls the car's jolt, and the dampener/shock absorber regulates that action.

 

so bagel, should the konis be able to hold up to the race springs since they're progressive?

 

- will you be tracking the car..?? a lot?

 

not at all. i can handle stiff suspension, just not "bone-jarring" stiff suspension.

 

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- my suspension is not even close to being stiff... maybe you'll like it?
- comptech adjustble springs on koni yellows...