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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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I already know how to tightin the belt, I know the steps. My question is, the belt seems to be able to slide of the cam gears pretty easy, not that easy but if I take my hands and put some force behind it, the timing belt moves side to side. Is this normal ?
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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im in the same boat.. i was able to slide the belt both sides with some force.. then i try to adjust the tension once. and it was harder for me to slide it.. so i guess it got tighter.. i can still slide it but its harder than before.. i have to do it with both hands and with force ... the tension seem ok too me but im not sure.. i dont wanna have it too tight or too losse..
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Now I have run into a new problem with the belt, the belt gets tighter but as you turn the engine over it gets looser then tight then loose. It jumped a couple teeth now to, so my next question is, if I get the crank pully and tdc and I aligned the cam gears so there pointing up and there good, will everything be ok ? I know the piston comes around twice so there is 2 top dead centers, but the one the crank and cams are not even ligned up so I know its not that one. Anyways if I align the cams, and the crank pully and then slide the belt on, will it be fine ? Also how big of a role does the tensioner spring play ? I am using the old one, but would a new one really make a difference ?


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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Does this look like to much tension ?

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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your link didnt work.

first make sure you have the correct belt for the motor.
what kind of engine is it, by you saying gears im suspecting either a b series or a ZC, but which one.
its ok for them to be fairly loose, you should be able to slide them on and off with some force, it shouldnt just slip off, but with force it should slide on or off, you dont need to worry about it slipping off the cam gears thats what those two little caps things that sandwhich the timing belt at the crank gear are for, they keep the belt lined up as it spins
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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The link does work, so how about the cam alignment with the crank, if I just set them both up to tdc will it be fine ?
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Link dont work unless you wanna give every1 your gmail password? You have a gmail cookie on your cpu that allows you to see your pic
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Right click save as, or else the page will get to many hits and go down. Does anyone have any ideas on why it gets tight and then becomes loose ?

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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is ur cam gear bent
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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No there not bent, I fixed the tension. Here is the alignment, how does it look ?

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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did u get a new tensioner
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u get a new tensioner</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, I got a new one for the engine, the same tensioner that was giving me the problems is still on there but the tension issue is fixed. My main concern was, if the cam gears were out of alignment with the crank, if I set the crank and tdc and I align the cams, will I be good to go ?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, I got a new one for the engine, the same tensioner that was giving me the problems is still on there but the tension issue is fixed. My main concern was, if the cam gears were out of alignment with the crank, if I set the crank and tdc and I align the cams, will I be good to go ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm i dont get this.. did you or not got a new tensioner in there?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, I got a new one for the engine, the same tensioner that was giving me the problems is still on there but the tension issue is fixed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wtf u got a new one for the engine...and u say the same tensionr THAT was giving you the problem is still on there


ok if ur using the same tensior just buy a new one, seems like u need a new one since ur belt gets loose and at times is tight
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wtf u got a new one for the engine...and u say the same tensionr THAT was giving you the problem is still on there


ok if ur using the same tensior just buy a new one, seems like u need a new one since ur belt gets loose and at times is tight </TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me reword that, the customer bought a new tensioner for the engine. After I put the belt on the belt would not tighten, after a few times of retrying to tighten it, I got it to work.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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so you bought a new one.. but never got to use it?? lol cuz im still confused
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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lol, ok customer bought a new one for the engine original, well I put the brand new one on that is still being used, there is only 1 tensioner and its new. Well there is an old one that got shipped with the engine but that came off right away.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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man we dont need the whole life story


is the tensioner NEW OR OLD no story needed just new or old
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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i think i get it.. he installed a new tensioner .. and the new tensioner was givin him problems.. in other words he wasnt adjusting the belt properly after a few tries the belt its fine now.. right?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man we dont need the whole life story


is the tensioner NEW OR OLD no story needed just new or old</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was trying to explain it better, the tensioner is new. And I followed the instructions but it still was not working, I ended pulling up a little on the tensioner to get the tightiness I wanted.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was trying to explain it better, the tensioner is new. And I followed the instructions but it still was not working, I ended pulling up a little on the tensioner to get the tightiness I wanted.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how did u pull it? what did u use ?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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so i take it u dont have the bottom cover?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Oh , I have the cover, the engine is out of the car.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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what I do is, set your tdc and slide on your belt. turn it half of a quarter of a turn. then tighten the tensioner. check it after cause it might be too tight.
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