regarding the bead on a pipe for silicone hoses

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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i know that there is a machine which creates a bead around the pipe so that you can use hoses to connect them and they wont slip off. im wondering, can i just lay a bead around the edge of the pipe myself with my welder or will that not suffice? it seems to me it would be okay but i might as well ask people that know more than me
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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That sounds like a pretty good idea. Sounds like a cheap alternative to buying a beading maching which im sure cant be that cheap. Good luck and post how it turns out.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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i just weld 3 or 4 beads to the pipe
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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any muffler shop with a descent bender can flare the end in 5 seconds. Gives you a raised lip about 1/4 inch inside the end of the tube. SLide your coupler over the lip and tighten the clamp.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: regarding the bead on a pipe for silicone hoses (im sabah)

I ran across this a while ago. You can do it w/o welding a bead.

http://www.ffcobra.com/FAQ/enginecooling.html

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Wow thanx, making that little bead on the end has been the only thing stopping me from making my own intercooler pipes, i think i might do that now. GREAT FIND!
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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works great, we do it all the time. Just bead 2 lines, one on each side and lay bead over 1/3-1/2 the pipe
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Here you go: http://www.vansantent.com/bead_tool.htm

But it isn't a very cheap piece of equipment
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRex91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here you go: http://www.vansantent.com/bead_tool.htm

But it isn't a very cheap piece of equipment</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thats a cool piece.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D3LSLO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">works great, we do it all the time. Just bead 2 lines, one on each side and lay bead over 1/3-1/2 the pipe</TD></TR></TABLE>

cheapest most effective method with minimal resources
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRex91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here you go: http://www.vansantent.com/bead_tool.htm

But it isn't a very cheap piece of equipment</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm, i think i can make that... at least good enough for charge pipes
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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novel idea with the wire and jb weld. i believe roadrace engineering just got a pair of vice grips (99cent store has em, guess how much), tack welded a round bead on one jaw, then grinded a hole the shape of the bead in the other jaw. clamp all around the pipe to make the bead. not sure if it would be able to bead something as thick as in the jb weld article.

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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All this time screwing around with JB Weld, vice grips, and spending money on a $400+ beadmaker isnt worth it if you have a welder.
I just did this today for newgsrdriver a mod in the FI board. Run a small bead of MIG about 3/4" long 90 degress away from each other on the outside of the pipe. Works great I did this on my IC piping (which now is pretty ghetto) after I had lots of problems with one of the coupling popping off....never happened again after the welding.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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You could do what I do when making up stainless hard lines for the water lines;


What I did was take a section of small diameter welding rod and bend it around the end of the pipe, then fill in around it with solder. It's easy to shape the solder so that it's easy to slide on the hose.

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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I do 3, 1" long beads about 1/8" from the end of the pipe with a mig. takes all of 60sec including setting it up and works fantasticly.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All this time screwing around with JB Weld, vice grips, and spending money on a $400+ beadmaker isnt worth it if you have a welder.
I just did this today for newgsrdriver a mod in the FI board. Run a small bead of MIG about 3/4" long 90 degress away from each other on the outside of the pipe. Works great I did this on my IC piping (which now is pretty ghetto) after I had lots of problems with one of the coupling popping off....never happened again after the welding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

uhh i believe the point here is doing it w/o a welder
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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yeah, long story short lol. i believe he said that he does have a welder.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Default Re: regarding the bead on a pipe for silicone hoses (SiRex91)

get the bead roller dont do anything bootie like welding it/forming mudd/or anything of the sort. well the bead roller might be out of your buget (dont know) but if you plan on doing more kits it would be a good idea. or maybe just take it to a fab shop and have it rolled!
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