Apexi filter vs. K&N filter...
I've searched, searched, and searched some more. I plan on getting an Icebox set up for my ITR. I've read that you can use both the K&N RU-3130 or E-2427 with the Icebox as well as the Apexi Power Intake. I've been reading many posts of people loving the Apexi intake and I prefer dry filters because of the K&N oil screwing up sensors and what not (rumors). I've also read the great filter test on the Supra website. I'm trying to figure out if its worth it to buy an Apexi filter ($80) vs. a K&N ($40). Thanks for any input.
-Andrew
EDIT: Also, I read on the Supra site that the Apexi is reusable. Is there any truth to that? Do you just wash it and re-use it?
-Andrew
EDIT: Also, I read on the Supra site that the Apexi is reusable. Is there any truth to that? Do you just wash it and re-use it?
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I'm getting an icebox, I just don't wanna use the Comptech smurf filter. The stock filter sucks, so I'm trying to figure out if I should go with Apexi or K&N. It looks like K&N might be better according to the JDM Junkie.
-Andrew
I'm getting an icebox, I just don't wanna use the Comptech smurf filter. The stock filter sucks, so I'm trying to figure out if I should go with Apexi or K&N. It looks like K&N might be better according to the JDM Junkie.
-Andrew
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No its not.....
No its not.....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stealth 95 GS-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and the plot thickens...Is that your car? Can you give me some more details?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here's some roux to thicken your plot a bit more:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
Here's some roux to thicken your plot a bit more:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
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No its not.....
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Looks small to me
No its not.....
Looks small to me
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's some roux to thicken your plot a bit more:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/</TD></TR></TABLE>
Interesting...I'm glad the "article" is objective though, stating that the conditions of the test might not have been entirely objective (as in to promote Apexi).
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/</TD></TR></TABLE>
Interesting...I'm glad the "article" is objective though, stating that the conditions of the test might not have been entirely objective (as in to promote Apexi).
There have been other filter reviews that took more of an unbiased stance. The apexi filter still outflowed and outfiltered the other filters...one of which was K&N
lol, two people have mentioned the Supra article, which is funny because I stated in my first post that I already read the article.
Oh well, I guess it might come down to how much money I have. The Apexi has a 3" outlet, well, technically bigger if I make a new filter adapter from stuff at home depot. I think the funnel idea is pretty cool. Apexi is reputable...I guess I'll just keep you guys updated and keep an eye on this thread.
-Andrew
Oh well, I guess it might come down to how much money I have. The Apexi has a 3" outlet, well, technically bigger if I make a new filter adapter from stuff at home depot. I think the funnel idea is pretty cool. Apexi is reputable...I guess I'll just keep you guys updated and keep an eye on this thread.-Andrew
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Looks small to me
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Heres a full engine picture just to put the filter in perspective, I wouldnt consider it small, its the same size a the Blitz SuS filter, larger than the Feels filter i had on before, larger than the K&N ITR specific filter....

I think the Apex'i filters are pretty universal and they just supply a specific adaptor for individual motors. There is 2 bolt designs on the base for different adaptors to screw onto. The noise of it is impressive compared to other oiled filters i have used in the past. I went for the apexi primarily because it was a dry filter and because it has supposedly the best flow and filtration compared to others.
Looks small to me
</TD></TR></TABLE>Heres a full engine picture just to put the filter in perspective, I wouldnt consider it small, its the same size a the Blitz SuS filter, larger than the Feels filter i had on before, larger than the K&N ITR specific filter....
I think the Apex'i filters are pretty universal and they just supply a specific adaptor for individual motors. There is 2 bolt designs on the base for different adaptors to screw onto. The noise of it is impressive compared to other oiled filters i have used in the past. I went for the apexi primarily because it was a dry filter and because it has supposedly the best flow and filtration compared to others.
They are pretty small IMO. Surprisingly how a lot of the big TT boyz use them on their GTRs and Supras and how it can outflow other cone filters with larger surface areas.
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aren't there cleanig kits?
aren't there cleanig kits?
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The K&N drop-in for Integras is a POS, I think it's smaller than a stock filter, and it doesn't fit the airbox like a stock filter does.
I prefer my K&N RU-2820 ($30) which fits my airbox 100% like stock.
I prefer my K&N RU-2820 ($30) which fits my airbox 100% like stock.
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Here's some roux to thicken your plot a bit more:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/</TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought about that test several times.. It seems that apexi does the worst filtering job. Afterall, what should filter look like if its doing a good job? I'd say the more dirt it collects, the better job it must be doing? Apexi looks way too clean so little particals must be getting by one way or another.
Maintanance free air filter is just like maintainance free fuel filters.
That dirt can't disaapear as it goest through apexi filter.. right? or does it bounce off? in otherwords it has to go somewhere, so it went inside that vacuum, but they didn't mention that part.
Could it be that some of these filters may look dirtier than they are because of material type, so just cause it looks dirty doesn't mean it cleans well.. hope this makes sence.
Here's some roux to thicken your plot a bit more:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/</TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought about that test several times.. It seems that apexi does the worst filtering job. Afterall, what should filter look like if its doing a good job? I'd say the more dirt it collects, the better job it must be doing? Apexi looks way too clean so little particals must be getting by one way or another.
Maintanance free air filter is just like maintainance free fuel filters.
That dirt can't disaapear as it goest through apexi filter.. right? or does it bounce off? in otherwords it has to go somewhere, so it went inside that vacuum, but they didn't mention that part.
Could it be that some of these filters may look dirtier than they are because of material type, so just cause it looks dirty doesn't mean it cleans well.. hope this makes sence.
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I thought about that test several times.. It seems that apexi does the worst filtering job. Afterall, what should filter look like if its doing a good job? I'd say the more dirt it collects, the better job it must be doing? Apexi looks way too clean so little particals must be getting by one way or another.
Maintanance free air filter is just like maintainance free fuel filters.
That dirt can't disaapear as it goest through apexi filter.. right? or does it bounce off? in otherwords it has to go somewhere, so it went inside that vacuum, but they didn't mention that part.
Could it be that some of these filters may look dirtier than they are because of material type, so just cause it looks dirty doesn't mean it cleans well.. hope this makes sence.
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Nope that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.....they show a picture of the filter to show you what the filter material looks like...it didnt say that it was taken after the filtration test, its just a damn picture of it! They show what amount the filters allowed through and the apexi one allowed very little through which means its has good filtration properties...is that not enough for you or for you to believe something do you have to see the filter all caked in dust to prove it doesnt allow it through?????????????
I thought about that test several times.. It seems that apexi does the worst filtering job. Afterall, what should filter look like if its doing a good job? I'd say the more dirt it collects, the better job it must be doing? Apexi looks way too clean so little particals must be getting by one way or another.
Maintanance free air filter is just like maintainance free fuel filters.
That dirt can't disaapear as it goest through apexi filter.. right? or does it bounce off? in otherwords it has to go somewhere, so it went inside that vacuum, but they didn't mention that part.
Could it be that some of these filters may look dirtier than they are because of material type, so just cause it looks dirty doesn't mean it cleans well.. hope this makes sence.
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Nope that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.....they show a picture of the filter to show you what the filter material looks like...it didnt say that it was taken after the filtration test, its just a damn picture of it! They show what amount the filters allowed through and the apexi one allowed very little through which means its has good filtration properties...is that not enough for you or for you to believe something do you have to see the filter all caked in dust to prove it doesnt allow it through?????????????
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I thought about that test several times.. It seems that apexi does the worst filtering job. Afterall, what should filter look like if its doing a good job? I'd say the more dirt it collects, the better job it must be doing? Apexi looks way too clean so little particals must be getting by one way or another.
Maintanance free air filter is just like maintainance free fuel filters.
That dirt can't disaapear as it goest through apexi filter.. right? or does it bounce off? in otherwords it has to go somewhere, so it went inside that vacuum, but they didn't mention that part.
Could it be that some of these filters may look dirtier than they are because of material type, so just cause it looks dirty doesn't mean it cleans well.. hope this makes sence.
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I'm guessing thats a picture of you in your avatar?
I thought about that test several times.. It seems that apexi does the worst filtering job. Afterall, what should filter look like if its doing a good job? I'd say the more dirt it collects, the better job it must be doing? Apexi looks way too clean so little particals must be getting by one way or another.
Maintanance free air filter is just like maintainance free fuel filters.
That dirt can't disaapear as it goest through apexi filter.. right? or does it bounce off? in otherwords it has to go somewhere, so it went inside that vacuum, but they didn't mention that part.
Could it be that some of these filters may look dirtier than they are because of material type, so just cause it looks dirty doesn't mean it cleans well.. hope this makes sence.
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I'm guessing thats a picture of you in your avatar?
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