As the title states, what sort of difference can be seen between the DC header and any of the more expensive headers? Your more expensive headers and double and even triple what one would expect to spend on the DC, but are the gains and construction double or triple to quality of the DC? I remember seeing some numbers in an older "power pages" and it didn't seem bad at all. What do you guys think?

Decent bang for my buck or cheap ricer product?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95civicturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As the title states, what sort of difference can be seen between the DC header and any of the more expensive headers?</TD></TR></TABLE>

DC headers weigh in at just under 10 lbs. the stocker. Stock = 22lbs. DC Sports 12lbs. No gains. Zero gains. Nothing, zilch, nada. Others: Spoon, Toda, Mugen are built for a particular purpose and range. If you do not need that range for a particular purpose, then don't bother. Otherwise, it will be just the JDM-Bling-mod.

 

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DC headers weigh in at just under 10 lbs. the stocker. Stock = 22lbs. DC Sports 12lbs. No gains. Zero gains. Nothing, zilch, nada. Others: Spoon, Toda, Mugen are built for a particular purpose and range. If you do not need that range for a particular purpose, then don't bother. Otherwise, it will be just the JDM-Bling-mod.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what you're saying is that I'll save weight no matter how I look at it, but the more expensive will give me range specific gains only? How did they get the few horse they did from the DC unit in Power Pages?

 

Most dynos you'll see of the DC Sports S2000 header show it actually losing a few HP over most of the RPM band.

Andrew

 

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Andrew</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? So you guys think I should stick with my stock header?

 

Well if it doesnt gain any power...what's the purpose?

If you're gonna do a header - do a header. Toda...or something of the like. Otherwise the stocker does it great.

 

The DC header looks nice and it does save some weight, but no way would oyu find me bolting one on my car. The performance improvements just aren't there with the header.

 

only header that makes most power and weight saving is "Amuse"

Mugen, Spoon gain's 6-10whp in the midrange, toda, fujitsubo gain's 5-7whp in highrange.

Amuse gain's power overall.

DC Sport=looses power across the board.

 

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Andrew</TD></TR></TABLE>

which dyno's would that be?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluesaint &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only header that makes most power and weight saving is "Amuse"

Mugen, Spoon gain's 6-10whp in the midrange, toda, fujitsubo gain's 5-7whp in highrange.

Amuse gain's power overall.

DC Sport=looses power across the board.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry to inform you that the statements you're presenting are incorrect. There are so many variables involved in how much power this header makes or that header. If you put all those headers on a s2000 with a stock ecu, you'll likely see the same results with some losing power. I have not seen a dyno of an amuse header with a programable standalone ecu, so I cannot comment on it. I will saw the mugen makes power in the midrange, not lacking any power top end. The toda has a higher output than the mugen across the board. The spoon is lacking. Haven't seen a fujitsubo yet.

Basically, there is power to be gained in each header, and that is determined by the tuner and setup. In order to get every hp, you need to make sure the whole setup is tuned, not just slapping on a header and expecting gains. And don't say the amuse makes the most power because it's the prettiest and most expensive.

 

Vapor, you can see the Amuse header dyno in the 2nd edition of Hyper Rev.

Also i personally had the fujitsubo and spoon headers on my S before i switched to Amuse. I think i'm the only one who can attest to how they make power.

Cheers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluesaint &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Vapor, you can see the Amuse header dyno in the 2nd edition of Hyper Rev.

Also i personally had the fujitsubo and spoon headers on my S before i switched to Amuse. I think i'm the only one who can attest to how they make power.

Cheers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

got any pics...also do u a have the amuse exhaust to match...i would luv to see any dyno results if u tuned it with an aem ems...I know no setup is alike....im just curious to see what u got

 

- I have a DC header and didn't feel any difference...
- the only reason I got the DC header was because it came with my wideband (dc header had a bung already welded for the o2).. oh, and its a little lighter.. WOW!

 

Wassup. As you might remember, I was there for the dyno day at Dynolabs with my S that you organized. I had just put on the DC Sport header on my car and I wanted to see for myself if anything was to be gained or lost. The only reason I even bought the header was at only $200 new, it wasn't much money to be lost to try. The results are not truly comparable because the dynos were done on different days, but my car did gain hp and tq in the mid rpm range. I don't remember off the top of my head what the exact numbers are, but max gain was about 5-6hp around 7000 rpm. I didn't gain any peak hp, just some mid range. This was done on a S with stock ecu. Other relevant mods at the time was a CAI. Just my .02.

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Toda, Mugen, Amuse