hey guys, i was wondering if i got wiht FI on the s2k, what setup would be best in the turbo field and how many lbs would it handle wiht stock internals driven hard w/out ANY problems if possible. it will have aem ems tuned tho.

and also, if not taht way, what would be a good setup for all motor with ITB's, prolly a T1R exhuast ( i believe thats what it is called) not sure about headers and cams. i would love to go with the hitech headers and exhaust but not sure if ima spend more than 3g's for that setup. any advice? thanks a lot.

 

do alot of research before you start modding, mods whether NA or FI with tuning add up quick $$$

 

if 3 grand is your budget limit, this isn't the car nor the setup for you. if you are going turbo, start out with roughly 5K on the limit and then add in other dollars for expendables/parts that break/parts that need upgrading to give you more power.

I agree, might want to do a little more reading and research regarding this project. turbos are great, but they are not for everyone and everything. might want to also do an occassional spell check.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R S2 G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys, i was wondering if i got wiht FI on the s2k, what setup would be best in the turbo field and how many lbs would it handle wiht stock internals driven hard w/out ANY problems if possible. it will have aem ems tuned tho.

and also, if not taht way, what would be a good setup for all motor with ITB's, prolly a T1R exhuast ( i believe thats what it is called) not sure about headers and cams. i would love to go with the hitech headers and exhaust but not sure if ima spend more than 3g's for that setup. any advice? thanks a lot.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, before Vapor locks the thread and tells you to use the search engine (j/K )
There are soooo many options. Can't remember who it was now, but posted a video of an S with only turbo, 3mm head gasket, and VAFC for engine management runnning 12psi and 350whp. IIRC, this caused a massive row, with people being slandered left, right, and centre. The thing is that there was a video of it, so it has to be true...right? There was some sort of agreement that whilst standard internals will handle this boost, it would be best to get a decent computer as to prevent any detonation and make the most of the bolt-ons (as in any tuning situation) which is what you seem to have already. The gains with the hytech stuff are minimal, and other items actually lose you power. The Amuse T1R is made from titanium, so its performance comes from light weight, not any massive increase in flow. What ever you decide to do, lower you final drive ratio. 4.5 seems to be a decent number, but some owners have gone upto a 4.7 and beyond!
Right, i've said enough now!

 

please dont get into this spell check cr*p that H-T tends to get into. 3g's isn't a problem for me i said just for the header and exhaust i am NOT SURE if i wanna spend that much on just those two you know. i was thinking going with the 4.44 i believe it is? and the AEM EMS wiht either one of those setups. if i go FI, what kind custom kit should i put together? lovefab exhaust mani? what kind of intake mani? turbo size etc. i ask because i was going to turbo my prelude and i knew very well what i was going to do with it but i didn't go with that car and went with the s2k and this is my new situation so i dont have too much knowledge in the FI section with the s2k.

 

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Avoid horrible grammar and spelling and avoid ridicule. Quite easy, isn't it?

Anyways, I really suggest you read up, especially on S2ki for a while. Some of the costs regarding turboing an S2000 can be quite a bit more than the car itself. It all depends on the goal and the intended purpose. If you are just wanting to throw on a turbo and have some boost on the street, it should be realtively moderate expense wise. And I mean that by sub-$9K budget.

 

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Avoid horrible grammar and spelling and avoid ridicule. Quite easy, isn't it?

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bingo

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Well, before Vapor locks the thread and tells you to use the search engine (j/K )
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lol! wouldn't you get tired if all you saw was threads on "advice in buying a s2k" or "is the s2k a car for me?"

I've asked this question before in the past in other threads where people want to start moding their cars:

for what purpose are you modding the car for? everything has a purpose in life. If you want to stunna-fy the car, throw parts on it that are the most expensive you can find and earn pimp juice that way. If you want to use the car, first figure out for purpose, to win points at car shows, to turn quicker 1/4 mile times, or to lap vipers and vettes at a road course or auto-x. Then go from there. If you have class rules you need to abide by, figure them out before you mod.

ahhh, I just used this feature https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch and check out what I found, deja vu and I don't mean the exotic dancing night club:

https://honda-tech.com/zero...95424

 

what if i dont know how to spell or use correct grammar, going to give me a hard time on that? honestly, this spelling grammar police **** is gettin old ppl.

 

More bang for the buck = supercharger !!!

i would recommend vortec. more reliable with about 80hp increase.

visit .... http://www.evolutionautosports.com

they dealt with numerous supercharged S2000s

 

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It's for your own good People tend to stop reading after the first few sentences if they need to re-read it 5 times to make any sense out of it. And no one really jumped on you, just said to check over your spelling.

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i would recommend vortec. more reliable with about 80hp increase.

visit .... http://www.evolutionautosports.com

they dealt with numerous supercharged S2000s</TD></TR></TABLE>

Turbo setups can be made for cheaper and yeild more power. If you're talking about comparing pre-made kits, then ya, supercharger.

 

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Turbo setups can be made for cheaper and yeild more power. If you're talking about comparing pre-made kits, then ya, supercharger.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not on this car.

 

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Well, not RELIABLY

 

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Well, not RELIABLY </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope to have proven you wrong by this time next year

 

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Well, not RELIABLY </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is the F20/22C some magical motor that explodes when it sees positive manifold pressure? Or does a supercharger put out a different kind of compressed air than a turbo? Turbocharging is a VERY reliable way to make power in the hands of a skilled person.


Turbocharging got a bad name becuase people like the one who made this thread go out and buy a turbo kit that comes with a wonderful FMU, get use to the power than go out and buy a boost controller and than complain about cracked ringlands. And all of a sudden turbos are unreliable.


Turbocharging a S2K is NO different than any other car. All it takes it knowledge. And I will say that the FRM sleeves do make it more challenging but conservative tuning can avoid any problems of gernading the motor.

 

ey bro watch yourself, before you start talking read what i said, i said i had a lot of knowledge with the FI prelude but little wiht the s2k so i asked how much can it handle with ems. so read before you start a war here and point figures like your some big ******* ****. **like the one who started this thread** so its ppl like me that give that name out huh? first read and understand what comes across the ******* paragraph. you obviously missed the part that i said with EMS and TUNINGGGGGGG!

 

honda-tech has a bad name cuz of ppl like you that are soo ******* stupid they just post something to make it seem like they know what they are talking about or they just post nonsense. did you anywhere in my posts see me say ima boost the **** out of it with a boost controller.

 

and it's attitudes like yours that make ppl not want to help you...

 

did i have an attitude or anything of the sort up untill he said what he said? no i didn't so thank you very much.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R S2 G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ey bro watch yourself, before you start talking read what i said, i said i had a lot of knowledge with the FI prelude but little wiht the s2k so i asked how much can it handle with ems. so read before you start a war here and point figures like your some big ******* ****. **like the one who started this thread** so its ppl like me that give that name out huh? first read and understand what comes across the ******* paragraph. you obviously missed the part that i said with EMS and TUNINGGGGGGG! </TD></TR></TABLE>


The part that made me think you didn't know much about FI is from your first post, general questions with no specifics usually demonstrate lack of research into the topic.

The first thing you asked about was how much psi could you run daily while beating the **** out of it. (This made me think that you would probably overboost it) If you do have the knowledge about FI you would know that different turbos put out different CFM's, and therefore different amounts of heat, and depending on which turbo you choose, you'll be able to handle different amounts of boost.

All you mentioned was you were getting an EMS, which implies you know that the EMS is good but you failed to mention injector size, fuel pump, or map sensor. Therefore Theoretically with just the EMS your right there limited to 11psi on stock map sensor. injectors will limit you even more so your down to 9psi. Running on stock compression and with the FRM sleeves I wouldn't push it and leave it at 8 max.


I didn't mean anything personal, so calm down. If the original post said something like "Hey I'm looking into FI, I've got an EMS, 3 bar map sensor, 550cc injectors, GT35R with a .63 turbine, spearco intercooler and 3mm head gasket, what psi do you think I can run safely?" I would have thought you weren't a noobie at FI.


And also I've answered all your questions about a good setup and I think with all I mentioned you can do in the 11 to 14psi range.

 

well that is why i nicely said, what "SETUP" is good. there for meaning i dont kno wmuch about a s2k custom setup as i said and i as i mentioned i have very little knowledge of FI with the s2k setup. you guys just dont read EVERYTHING, you read it but pick out what you want to pick out and you deal with the key things that either bothered you or gave you the quick jump at oh i can bash on him cuz of whatever the reason you found. also, in what way does me asking how much psi can i run safely have ANYTHINGGGGGGGG to do with overboosting? doesn't that mean that i am not sure how much is safe on this car. maybe you guys catch the spell check and grammar check bull **** but sure as hell don't know how to disect or not even disect but how to understand the key points of a comment/paragraph or whatevre it may be. and thank you for answering my question. that wasn't sarcastically said either. thanks.

 

need more $$$ for a turbo

 

if this helps...the engine 11 to 1...8 pounds of boost gives you an effective compression of 16.98 On stock internals that's alot. Of course you only hit that at max boost on an sc. The engineering envelope of the motor without making internal changes is around 325 rwhp maybe to 340rwhp. After that you start outrunning the other design components of the car as well. Then the mods start getting really interesting......I still don't like turbos on s2k's they seem to have a short life expectancy. So far my setups been pretty trouble free. I have a little over 10g in my mods.

It's not as cheap as you think it is...

fltsfshr

wow my first post

 

OMG. My head hurts reading this paragraph.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R S2 G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well that is why i nicely said, what "SETUP" is good. there for meaning i dont kno wmuch about a s2k custom setup as i said and i as i mentioned i have very little knowledge of FI with the s2k setup. you guys just dont read EVERYTHING, you read it but pick out what you want to pick out and you deal with the key things that either bothered you or gave you the quick jump at oh i can bash on him cuz of whatever the reason you found. also, in what way does me asking how much psi can i run safely have ANYTHINGGGGGGGG to do with overboosting? doesn't that mean that i am not sure how much is safe on this car. maybe you guys catch the spell check and grammar check bull **** but sure as hell don't know how to disect or not even disect but how to understand the key points of a comment/paragraph or whatevre it may be. and thank you for answering my question. that wasn't sarcastically said either. thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Man, calm down a little bit. Using correct grammer, punctuation, and a capital letter every now and then will get you more help and responses. This isnt a chatroom.

 

nor is it an english class. just cause of stupid punctuation errors it doesn't mean ppl shouldn't respond to posts. pretty pathetic, dont ya think?

 

It's not like we're saying, "That guy's grammar sucks, he doesn't deserve a reply". It's just halfway through the dang paragraph our heads start to hurt and it's not worth finishing reading. And the people that do finish are going to be bitter because you just gave them a headache.

As for your questions, ~8-10psi seems to be safe on stock internals for most other Honda motors, I'd imagine the F20C would be about the same.