I began to search for wider lighter wheels in 15 inche and I've noticed that the lightweight low price 15 inch wheels are mostly available for 4 lug patterns.

With that I have began to think about changing to a 4-lug suspension.

Is the ITR 4 lug the same as teh ITR 5 lug in regards to brake calipers and rotor diameter? or is it the same as a standard Integra 4lug?

Besides the benefit of weight reduction, and the widely availabel wheel sizes, any other benefits?

what are the downfalls?

Any other things to consider or concerns as well as comments?

thanks

 

please don't... stick to stock.

the 4 lug ITR brakes are the same as the ls/gs-r with just a different bolt pattern.

whats wrong with your stock wheels?

 

Isn't the ITR 4 lug 4x114.3?

Is that the same size as the wheels you were lookin at?

 

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With that I have began to think about changing to a 4-lug suspension.

Is the ITR 4 lug the same as teh ITR 5 lug in regards to brake calipers and rotor diameter? or is it the same as a standard Integra 4lug?

Besides the benefit of weight reduction, and the widely availabel wheel sizes, any other benefits?

what are the downfalls?

Any other things to consider or concerns as well as comments?

thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

They're are actually quite a few wheels in 5lug now. The 4lug setup is not the same as the 5lug, the 5lug setup stops quicker, and is a different brake setup.

Some wheels I'd look @.

ATS complite 15x7 +35 ($400)
Kosei K1 15x7 +38 ($500)
SSR Comp 15x7.5 (can't recall the exact offset wanna say it was in the 40's) ($1400)
Esses also makes a 15x7 5lug wheel they are around $400 too


Modified by DsR at 12:48 PM 8/5/2004

 

I am looking at 7.5 and 8 most likely 8.

Then again if I want to spend the money on the conversion I might as well put that for the more expensive wheels.

Either way the weight reduction may be good if I can get better brake calipers.

 

Unless $$ is no object, and you're willing to spend whatever it takes to make it work, why? I know serious drag racers have converted their Rs to 4-lug in front, but that's so they can fit those teensy 13-inch wheels on there.

Unless you've got a serious competition-related reason for doing this, it would probably be a downgrade.

 

This for auto-x in SM, just looking to put some more meat on the ground and help bring up the speeds on corners.
But i don't want to sacrifice braking in the process.

 

You can special order 15x8" 5-lug wheels. I'd do that waaaay before I ever thought about switching to 4-lug.

I have a set of 15x8" Volks for my ITR, and there are other companies that make them as well. Heck, you can get a 15x9 on there if you run a stiff enough spring and get creative with the fenders.

 

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Esses also makes a 15x7 5lug wheel they are around $400 too
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Speedmaster SM-058's.. on sale for $396/set right now.. hehe.. too bad they weigh 15.4lbs each.. Kosei's are still the best..

 

That is the key lightweigth.

Todd00 - Where did you order your wheels through?

thanks

 

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Todd00 - Where did you order your wheels through?

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Dave @ R&D can get them for ya. My 15x8 TE37's are about 10-11 lbs or so.

Or, Tirerack will drill out a set of Kosei K1's in a 5x114 15x8. They are about 13-14lbs, but a lot cheaper.

 

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But i don't want to sacrifice braking in the process.
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if its a stricklly autox car. this is a good argument. switching to 4x100 susp. (gsr) has some benefits. you can fit 13x8 rims, which you could benefit from. lighter/wider. and smaller diameter, (better gaering efect) but you would loose the size of your brakes, so in a sense your downgrading the brakes. but you have to out weight the pros vs cons. as for autx you really don't go as fast as you would in a track. so maybe gsr brakes with upgraded pads and rotors would be good enough.
talk to a few autox guys, jermy,chok,rj (from acutec). even go for a ride with them. they can give you input on how much brakes you need.

 

13" wheels are not the way to go on such a heavy car (relatively speaking)--especially in SM where you can make all the power and change the gearing around all you want.

Ask Rodney about this.

 

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I just got a set of the 058s, put them on the scale and they read a hair above 14.5 lbs. I got them for $320 shipped too!

 

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15x7? interesting..

where did you get em for $320?

 

is ti safe to run 225 victoracers on a 7.5 inch wheel?

 

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yes..its safe to run 225 on a 15x7 wheel as well.

 

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15x7? interesting..

where did you get em for $320?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes 15x7 +38 brand new in box. Sent PM.