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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Hello,
Total Newbie when it comes to Hondas, but trying to come over from Subarus. Anyways, I was wondering if there are any good sites,threads (yes I've searched), or advice on how large/wide/offset of a wheel I can use on a 92-95 Civic?

Common wheel offset, bolt patterns, anything I can learn. Thanks

Looking at a set of 15x7's, but wanting to know a LOT more than what I know now before I spend some cash. Thanks.


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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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anyone know? crap this board moves fast...

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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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I had 17x7.5 on my old 95 civic hatch with 205/40 17 tires. You should be fine with the 15in wheels
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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I'd say 7.5 is as wide as youd wanna go.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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4x100 Bolt pattern
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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I agree. I know a guy who has 16x8, but he had to work it by rolling the fenders and alittle negative camber. Not a good idea
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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I just got a set of Konig Heliums with Falken Azenis on my 92 Si. The wheels are 15x6 1/2 +40mm offset and the tires are 205/50/15. I have it dropped almost 2 inches. I had to roll the rear fenders in to keep it from rubbing. The front is fine. Plenty of room. If you go wider, you are going to need a little more offset. If you add camber to make more room, you are going to eat up tires and mess with the handling. Good luck.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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what do you guys mean by offset?
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4x100 Bolt pattern </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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offset has to do with how far the front edge of the rim is from the mounting point (hub)...
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Are there a standard offset for most Honda's?..or is this a platform specific matter?

4x100, isnt that for US spec models, or are some USDM's 5-bolts (excluding ITR's)?

Just for ***** and giggles, is there a standard pattern for 5-lugs?

Rich

Sorry for all the questions, just need a platform of info to start from.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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i don't know about 4 x 100 being just an american thing but it's common for civics and 5 lugs for hondas are usually 5 x 114...
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Am Jack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't know about 4 x 100 being just an american thing but it's common for civics and 5 lugs for hondas are usually 5 x 114...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just goes to show how much of a newbie I am . Are all 4-lugs 4-100, or am I mistaken yet again?

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Any info is better than what I have now
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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there are some 4x114.3 dont know what car they're on though.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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so running a 15x7 would be acceptable within the limits with a 30mm offset ( i beleive they are anyways)

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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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you can run and 8 inch wide wheel but you will need to get a farily low offset.


the offset in the low 30's, will ALL need fenders rolled unless you run you car really high and with stiff stiff supension

here is my car with 15x6.5 +32 offset.


you can run lower offset's but you run into problems with wheel's clearing and getting the mexican effect, with out some fender flares.

honda's come with

5x114.3 (ITR's some accords ect)
4x114.3 (some preludes, some accords ect)
4x100 (civic's, integra's)

common offsets for FF honda's range from +42 threw +50

its preatty hard to find rims with low offset for honda's in the 4x100 bolt pattern now they do exisist but not alot of other cars share this bolt pattern and if they do they utilize +40 or higher offsets. witht he 4x114.3 and 5X114.3 there are MANY other cars that use these offsets many of them RWD so it gives you the chance to get soem nice low offset wheels.


low offset gives you a wider stance and i like that.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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Wow, I like your car, nice and clean.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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I thought that offset dealt with the center of rim/ hub contact to the outward edge of the rim. Given this idea, wouldnt a low offset set the wheels farther inward towards the chasis? Am I totally backwards? Please continue...

Rich

I was mistaken before... they are 15x7 w/ 40mm offset. Is this acceptable?
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GChambers &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If you add camber to make more room, you are going to eat up tires and mess with the handling. Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>


wrong!

camber helps handling and will not eat up your tires as long as you have the TOE set to factory spec.

yea ill say it.... you just got served.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chads &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong!

camber helps handling and will not eat up your tires as long as you have the TOE set to factory spec.

yea ill say it.... you just got served. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he's talking in specifics when running with a 30's offset, not in general terms.

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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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sweet car...got anymore pics?
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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i got 16s with 205/45/16 no camber kit sotck offset as far as i know and it doesnt rub at all lowered like 1.5" (aftermarket suspension tho)
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought that offset dealt with the center of rim/ hub contact to the outward edge of the rim. Given this idea, wouldnt a low offset set the wheels farther inward towards the chasis? Am I totally backwards? Please continue...

Rich

I was mistaken before... they are 15x7 w/ 40mm offset. Is this acceptable?</TD></TR></TABLE>


the lower the offset (in + number the closer to zero you get) the futher out the will is pushed (givening you a wide stance. the higher the + number the closer in the wheel will set.

so ya you've got it back wards.

15x7 w/ a +40mm offset is fine alot of people run it, there is nothing wrong with that, me personally i would like something iwht a lower offset, but thats just me.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Milano98teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sweet car...got anymore pics?</TD></TR></TABLE>


search under my user name there are pleanty of threads with pics of my car, ALoT of them im a bit of a photo junky.


but thats not the ide of this thread its about wheels, back on track here.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chads &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


wrong!

camber helps handling and will not eat up your tires as long as you have the TOE set to factory spec.

yea ill say it.... you just got served. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ding ding ding ding ding

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think he's talking in specifics when running with a 30's offset, not in general terms.

Rich</TD></TR></TABLE>

and after i threw on the +32 wheels it LOOKS like my camber is gone, now this is not true but its wha tit looks like
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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my mistake... altho still lost in 'offset land' but thats my problem, ha

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