Since my previous thread, in which this was discussed, was unceremoniously deleted...here we go. I'd prefer replies from people who actually have the wing AND who have tracked their cars, but anyone else is welcome to answer at your own peril of course.

1. How is the visibility compared to the stock ITR wing?

2. How much of a difference do the different wing angles make? On a road course, does the hi-downforce setting pay any dividends in the corners, or pay any penalty on the straights?

3. How easy is it to adjust? And what tool do I need to adjust it?

Thanks in advance to BPR and Wes, as I'm sure they will weigh in on this topic

 

Ross - you have a PY and you need more attention? I dunno, I think you'll attract too many thieves with the wing. (if you don't have a garage)

 

I've got a secure location where my R sleeps...Not really a problem. He only leave his house to go play on the track and sit around relatively safe areas of Washington DC or to go home to CT which is really safe. A PY is a PY IMO, the Mugen wing isn't going to make it attract that much more attention.

 

SAFE areas of D.C???? where!!! lol, yeah i agree, unless the car thief really knows his shiet, the mugen wing wont attract anymore attention than the regular wing. Good luck on the car Ross.

 

1. Visibility toward the rear is 100% better (no different than no wing)

2. Probably a hundred pounds of difference between low and high settings - but I always keep mine at the maximum attack angle. On a misty day you can actually see con trails coming off the wing....cool.

3. Adjustment requires complete removal, dissassembly, adjustment and re-installation (kind of a pain - but that sucker won't move once it's bolted together).

 

Jon - how do you account for extra down form in the rear? Are you running a splitter up front? Or, do you look like you're taking off like an airplane.

 

Sorry - what I meant was about hundred pound reduction in lift at the rear.

 

BPR - so it reduces lift...I take it that it feels much different as well?

I was talking to George and he said that he had heard the wing only works properly in conjunction with the Mugen JDM front bumper...is this true? no flames on George, he was just telling me what he heard.

So to adjust the angle, you have to completely remove and disassemble the wing? what a PITA...but it's worth it. It's not like I won't have anyone to help me at the track...

Brian - where I live is pretty safe. It's full of older professional people and rich college students, none of whom give a **** about a crappy little Integra...

 

1. The visibility is waaaaaaaaaaay better than the stock one. You shouldn't have any problems with it being an obstacle like the stock one. When it is set on the least down-force setting (when it is flat), you can barely tell that it is there.

2. I agree with what Big Phat R said. You may lose a little speed down the big straights due to the drag, but it is more than offset by the handleing benefits. Remember everyone's excuse for the Type R not being a fast car in the straight lines, well this is the case too. You more than make up the time in the corners.

3. It isn't that bad to adjust IMO. It takes under 5 minutes to adjust. There are three screws that you will undue at each end of the middle part of the wing. At this time, the middle section of the wing is free from the supports, and the two side supports are fixed to the car. Then, there are three more screws on each end, two of which at each end need to be taken at to adjust the wing to the desired setting, and then the process is reversed, and you are done. The screws need to be taken out using an allen wrench.

 

Cool - I thought BPR meant that I had to take apart the whole thing, including supports...silly me. I'm mad excited to get this piece...man...

 

I didn't care for the look at first, but after I got it, I just loved it more and more! I think it helps the car look more aggressive errr

 

basically what everyone said above is true. Before i bought the mugen wing i loved it...now that it's on the car I feel it stands out a little too much. Guarenteed if you got a lot of looks (good/bad) before, you will get even more after this wing goes on.

 

FYI, I asked in a poll a while back about this, since I was seriously thinking of getting it, and the stock spoiler won the opinion poll in a major way:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=73036

 

I would say, do what you want, who cares if someone doesn't like your wing, as long as you do. Remember, form follows function...

 

Hmmm, I am leaving the tool box at home from now on.

Bryan

 

There is no sense in adding downforce in the rear unless you add some to the front on a FWD car.. It should be coupled with some type of splitter/airdam..

Think about it, more downforce on the rear will make the front of the car raise up (not literally in some cases) and take weight and traction of the front tires.. On straights it will also allow for more air to go under the car and produce me lift and drag.. That is if you don't add additional downforce to the front..


[Modified by Honda318dx, 11:22 AM 11/29/2001]

 

Actually, the Integra has around 62/38 front/back weight distribution. Because of it, there is more lift at the back than the front. It is more pronounced when people reduce the weight of the car by removing things such as the spare tire and the back seats. Since most of the removable items are near the back of the car. That is also why people who lightened their car will notice the backend lighter in resulting to more oversteer.

 

This is close to how I think about the whole thing - although I agree a front splitter is probably on order. I just came up with a new winter project.......doh! like I need another one.

 

Oversteer is very fast on a FWD car though

 

Yeah I run with no spare obviously...thanks for the post man it made me feel a little better.