im looking to fit some falken azenis on my stock 5th gen blades. what size do you guys use for your falkens on stock blades? . please give me the exact numbers offset, width, etc.

 

there's only one size of azenis for 16" wheels, 215/45/16.

15 is 205/50/15.

 

thx . these will fit my stock blades right? and do you reccomend a place to purchase them from? ooo and i should buy the "RS" type azenis for street tires that will offer maximum performance on the track.

 

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Actually that's not completely true, there's the 205/55/16 as well though I don't think anyone would really want to roll on that.

I bought mine from America's Tire locally. Ended up being the cheapest, there's vulcan tire online and discount tire direct online.

 

also looking at the Falken web site. The "approved" rim width for each size is as follows: 205/55/16 5.5 to 7.5
215/45/16 7.0 to 8.0

Our stock rims our 6.5, so you do the math, or take your chances. If you are not going to AutoX you should not have any problems running 215's on stock rims.

 

running 215's on a 6.5" wheel isn't that bad. there are guys running 225 hoosiers on 6.5" wheels in some stock classes. it's not ideal, but i don't think it's a huge issue.

some tire places may not like it when you mount them though...

 

[shrug] I run 215/45/16 on the stock base rims due to the fact that I'm cheap. It does pinch a little bit but nothing overly excessive. I'm sure that I'd get better performance from a 7-7.5" rim but then it would be another $500 for a set of rims instead of what I paid for the used base rims... $100. There's no problem with running the 215/45/16 on the stock rims.

 

thx for the help, great info

 

the 205's will fit a little better on the stock rims, and they cost less too.

 

I have run both 215/45/16 and am currently running 205/50/15 for autox.

the 215's are great, and if you are running a 16" wheel that is your best choice. It has a slightly lower OD, so it will give your car shorter gearing.

for autox we run the 15" to improve gearing even futher and save some $$$. not only that but I can share wheels/tires w/my ITR.

I picked up some ATS complites for cheap to run them on (15x7 +38) and measured the contact patch btwn the 215 on 7" wheel and 205 on 7" wheel. The difference was minimal. Brake clearance is also not a problem w/the OE setup.

I don't reccomend running the 205/15's on the street as it will accumulate quite a bit of extra miles, and it looks funny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DsR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have run both 215/45/16 and am currently running 205/50/15 for autox.

the 215's are great, and if you are running a 16" wheel that is your best choice. It has a slightly lower OD, so it will give your car shorter gearing.

for autox we run the 15" to improve gearing even futher and save some $$$. not only that but I can share wheels/tires w/my ITR.

I picked up some ATS complites for cheap to run them on (15x7 +38) and measured the contact patch btwn the 215 on 7" wheel and 205 on 7" wheel. The difference was minimal. Brake clearance is also not a problem w/the OE setup.

I don't reccomend running the 205/15's on the street as it will accumulate quite a bit of extra miles, and it looks funny </TD></TR></TABLE>

nice post, i was just wondering if it was worth it to ditch my 15's with 205/50's to run 215's on my stocke wheels.

apparently not. the question is, do i want to blow my OD out of the water, to run 225/45/17's on my 17x8's?

 

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nice post, i was just wondering if it was worth it to ditch my 15's with 205/50's to run 215's on my stocke wheels.

apparently not. the question is, do i want to blow my OD out of the water, to run 225/45/17's on my 17x8's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hrm.. well here's my thoughts.

The 5th gen already has some extremely tall gearing, but it's really dependant on the course on wether or not shortening it will be beneficial.

If it's too short you may waste some time going into 3rd, when you could be spending time in the top of 2nd.. and then waste even more time downshifting.

Here in UT, we run on some pretty small parking lots so the 205's really help her (my girlfriend drives the car now.) get the car up to speed faster, and In my honest opinion the Lude is one of the best high-er speed handlers I have driven. On the slower corner, the steering really messes up your run, so the shorter gearing helps her get out of the "chicago box" type turns quicker.

In the same respect.. lets face it the Lude is an under-tired beast (damn do I love it though ) so a bigger contact patch could potentially be very beneficial. But then we can delve into rotational mass etc..etc.

Basically we are splitting hairs here.. although you tend to see the top autox'rs run as wide of a tire as they can possibly run, so their must be a reason for it.

My thoughts on this are basically like many things youll find in racing especially autox..

overall grip&gt;horsepower or acceleration.

In the same respect working on the driver is far more important than all of these things, to do that you need seat time and seat time=$$$. so saving money on tires outweighs the overall grip benefit for me. Also I'm pretty sure neither I or my girlfriend can outdrive the car yet..

One thing I would look @for you is cramming some 205's (make sure you are using azenis, or another wide tire) on some 15x8's . Your contact patch should be improved quite a bit but you can still benefit from shorter gearing.

look here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=525452

 

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hrm.. well here's my thoughts.

The 5th gen already has some extremely tall gearing, but it's really dependant on the course on wether or not shortening it will be beneficial.

If it's too short you may waste some time going into 3rd, when you could be spending time in the top of 2nd.. and then waste even more time downshifting.

Here in UT, we run on some pretty small parking lots so the 205's really help her (my girlfriend drives the car now.) get the car up to speed faster, and In my honest opinion the Lude is one of the best high-er speed handlers I have driven. On the slower corner, the steering really messes up your run, so the shorter gearing helps her get out of the "chicago box" type turns quicker.

In the same respect.. lets face it the Lude is an under-tired beast (damn do I love it though ) so a bigger contact patch could potentially be very beneficial. But then we can delve into rotational mass etc..etc.

Basically we are splitting hairs here.. although you tend to see the top autox'rs run as wide of a tire as they can possibly run, so their must be a reason for it.

My thoughts on this are basically like many things youll find in racing especially autox..

overall grip&gt;horsepower or acceleration.

In the same respect working on the driver is far more important than all of these things, to do that you need seat time and seat time=$$$. so saving money on tires outweighs the overall grip benefit for me. Also I'm pretty sure neither I or my girlfriend can outdrive the car yet..

One thing I would look @for you is cramming some 205's (make sure you are using azenis, or another wide tire) on some 15x8's . Your contact patch should be improved quite a bit but you can still benefit from shorter gearing.

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yeah, it is geared pretty damned tall. I remember 214/45/17's feeling terrible.

The way i see it, is that STX allows me to run up to a 245mm tire (being that our fenderwells won't easily allow for it, and i've decided that blowing $700 out of my *** on some extremely low profile 245/35/17's isn't worth the risk i'm taking if it doesn't fit) running a 205 in a class with a)lighter cars like the ITR or b) more hp/awd cars like the WRX, all on varying sizes of azenis, my porky prelude can't possibly compete in terms of grip with 205/50/15's. I've run my 205/50's for a while now, and i like them very much, but it ends up being a question of whether my driving skill can make up for the extra 300 lbs my tires have to carry around a course. at this point it can't.

so i've got a few options: 1) stick with 205/50/15's on lightweight wheels 2) bump up to 215/45/16's on relatively heavy stock wheels 3) 225/50/15 bfg TA KD's on the 15's, 4) 245/35/17 GY F1's on some rotas that i have coming. 5) 225/45/17 azenis on the same rotas.

edit: after reading todd's thread, now i gotta buy ANTOHER set of wheels! damn.

haha damn a/x tire headaches.

 

my friend had some size 215/45/16 azenis on his 98 prelude and he loved those and when they went bald he decided to try the 205 since they are a lot cheaper and he said that he should have gotten teh 215s cause not only did they not perform as well, they also rubbed on his fender becasue his car was lowered.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2ali &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend had some size 215/45/16 azenis on his 98 prelude and he loved those and when they went bald he decided to try the 205 since they are a lot cheaper and he said that he should have gotten teh 215s cause not only did they not perform as well, they also rubbed on his fender becasue his car was lowered.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you saying 205's rubbed??

if so, that makes no sense becuase 205's are about a 1/2 shorter and 10mm thinner than the 215's