Newist IMV Films "Let the kid drive"
Leh from GSC has a new Vid out of him in the GT3 cupcar at the rennsport reunion in Daytona. Check out the vid
http://www.bigboosting.com/Let_the_Kid_Drive.wmv
http://www.bigboosting.com/Let_the_Kid_Drive.wmv
I'm pretty sure IMV filmed for one of our competitors at RRII. Some of those clips are identical to the movie they produced for him. Actually, I believe "The Kid" bought that Silvia off one of his crew members.
Probably opening a whole can of worms here but it's hard to take someone seriously as an on-track competitor if they're out running the streets.
Probably opening a whole can of worms here but it's hard to take someone seriously as an on-track competitor if they're out running the streets.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow . . . stay tuned for "Vehicular Lunatics".
I can't wait . . . .

At least he will probably crash before the end of hour 2 at the 24 hours of Daytona.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I bet Leh can Out drive you, your brother, and some guy your friend knows. So take that into consideration that he has driven with some of the biggest names in racing and they have all given him a
. BTW when David Murry tells you your driving a cup car as fast as it can go it ussually means something..
I can't wait . . . .

At least he will probably crash before the end of hour 2 at the 24 hours of Daytona.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I bet Leh can Out drive you, your brother, and some guy your friend knows. So take that into consideration that he has driven with some of the biggest names in racing and they have all given him a
. BTW when David Murry tells you your driving a cup car as fast as it can go it ussually means something..
Rather than sling insults around here (and I think I had some classics lined up) I'll gladly accept the challenge. I'm only a 4-5-6 finisher in my series so he should have no trouble beating me. Any chance of him being at VIR this weekend?
BTW - Everyone knows someone so name dropping won't get you anywhere around here.
BTW - Everyone knows someone so name dropping won't get you anywhere around here.
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I bet Leh can Out drive you, your brother, and some guy your friend knows. So take that into consideration that he has driven with some of the biggest names in racing and they have all given him a
. BTW when David Murry tells you your driving a cup car as fast as it can go it ussually means something..</TD></TR></TABLE>
classic comment of a non-driver. I don't know about other people but watching rich kids whose parents bought them a ride in an expensive racecar doesnt mean too much to me. They are a dime a dozen.
Go win a stars of karting competition then Ill willingly give props. Driving stupid on real roads just shows immaturity of a driver. Good way to hit a deer/dog/old lady who is walking down the road.
I bet Leh can Out drive you, your brother, and some guy your friend knows. So take that into consideration that he has driven with some of the biggest names in racing and they have all given him a
. BTW when David Murry tells you your driving a cup car as fast as it can go it ussually means something..</TD></TR></TABLE>classic comment of a non-driver. I don't know about other people but watching rich kids whose parents bought them a ride in an expensive racecar doesnt mean too much to me. They are a dime a dozen.
Go win a stars of karting competition then Ill willingly give props. Driving stupid on real roads just shows immaturity of a driver. Good way to hit a deer/dog/old lady who is walking down the road.
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There is no doubt that the kid has some skills to be on the track at Rennsport....and dad can certainly afford a nice stable of toys ($150+K Porsche GT3 track car, for example).
David Murry might vouch for his skills on the track, but I doubt the guy would endorse the street stuff at end of the vid.
Keep it on the track.
David Murry might vouch for his skills on the track, but I doubt the guy would endorse the street stuff at end of the vid.
Keep it on the track.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GreenFlag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no doubt that the kid has some skills to be on the track at Rennsport....</TD></TR></TABLE>
All it took was paying the $375 entry fee.
All it took was paying the $375 entry fee.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Audipwr1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Good way to hit a deer/dog/old lady who is walking down the road.
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obviously you haven't seen the absolute glut of old ladies down here in FL or you wouldn't be so concerned

Christian, who recognizes the Silvia from a CFR autoX... I thought someone else was driving it though?
</TD></TR></TABLE>obviously you haven't seen the absolute glut of old ladies down here in FL or you wouldn't be so concerned

Christian, who recognizes the Silvia from a CFR autoX... I thought someone else was driving it though?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought someone else was driving it though? </TD></TR></TABLE>
See the reference to it in my second post.
See the reference to it in my second post.
I can’t stand someone who says daddy must have bought him that car so he has no idea how to drive it. As you might know or might not know, time in a car will ultimately decrease lap times so will instruction just like you had at your NASA events. Leh has been to countless driving schools, spent multiple hours on a number of race tracks holds the record for GT3 cars at the New Barber motor sports complex, and always finishes in the top 3 of his class. So the question is whether he can or can’t drive. I know he can and the video is cool so what’s the flame about?
As far as a bet I think Leh would decline because he is not the kind of person to take anyone up on that. I am sure your opinion would change if you see him drive. I suggest you make it to a grand am race and watch before you start talking smack, but who am I to tell you what to do.
All of the off track footage was taken on a closed road with policy at each end stopping traffic. Sorry they cut that part out it was a controlled environment or at least much more controlled than many of the street racing footage that so many of us enjoy watching is. The Porsche’s racing at the end had nothing to do with Leh they were two totally different drivers that we don’t even know.
BTW I drive as well but this thread doesn't have anything to do with me.
As far as a bet I think Leh would decline because he is not the kind of person to take anyone up on that. I am sure your opinion would change if you see him drive. I suggest you make it to a grand am race and watch before you start talking smack, but who am I to tell you what to do.
All of the off track footage was taken on a closed road with policy at each end stopping traffic. Sorry they cut that part out it was a controlled environment or at least much more controlled than many of the street racing footage that so many of us enjoy watching is. The Porsche’s racing at the end had nothing to do with Leh they were two totally different drivers that we don’t even know.
BTW I drive as well but this thread doesn't have anything to do with me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GreenFlag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no doubt that the kid has some skills to be on the track at Rennsport....and dad can certainly afford a nice stable of toys ($150+K Porsche GT3 track car, for example).
David Murry might vouch for his skills on the track, but I doubt the guy would endorse the street stuff at end of the vid.
Keep it on the track.
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I believe you misread the post. At no point does it suggest daddy bought him the car so he has no skills. It just says dad can afford a nice stable of toys. The main contention seems to be more about the street shots in the vid which could have been alleviated with a disclaimer about a professional driver on a closed course or something to that effect.
David Murry might vouch for his skills on the track, but I doubt the guy would endorse the street stuff at end of the vid.
Keep it on the track.
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I believe you misread the post. At no point does it suggest daddy bought him the car so he has no skills. It just says dad can afford a nice stable of toys. The main contention seems to be more about the street shots in the vid which could have been alleviated with a disclaimer about a professional driver on a closed course or something to that effect.
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I believe you misread the post. At no point does it suggest daddy bought him the car so he has no skills. It just says dad can afford a nice stable of toys. The main contention seems to be more about the street shots in the vid which could have been alleviated with a disclaimer about a professional driver on a closed course or something to that effect.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that would probably temper the reaction to this video. the GT3 footage was kinda neat, i must admit.
I believe you misread the post. At no point does it suggest daddy bought him the car so he has no skills. It just says dad can afford a nice stable of toys. The main contention seems to be more about the street shots in the vid which could have been alleviated with a disclaimer about a professional driver on a closed course or something to that effect.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that would probably temper the reaction to this video. the GT3 footage was kinda neat, i must admit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gscmotorsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as a bet I think Leh would decline because he is not the kind of person to take anyone up on that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No one said anything about a bet... just a friendly competition to see if the kid can really drive. Fast cars don't make fast drivers.
edit: Actually, I was wrong. You were the one who said "I bet..."
Modified by Apocalypse at 8:41 AM 7/28/2004
No one said anything about a bet... just a friendly competition to see if the kid can really drive. Fast cars don't make fast drivers.
edit: Actually, I was wrong. You were the one who said "I bet..."
Modified by Apocalypse at 8:41 AM 7/28/2004
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No one said anything about a bet... just a friendly competition to see if the kid can really drive. Fast cars don't make fast drivers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And fast drivers don't always make fast racers.
No one said anything about a bet... just a friendly competition to see if the kid can really drive. Fast cars don't make fast drivers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And fast drivers don't always make fast racers.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gscmotorsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can’t stand someone who says daddy must have bought him that car so he has no idea how to drive it. ...Leh has been to countless driving schools, spent multiple hours on a number of race tracks holds the record for GT3 cars at the New Barber motor sports complex, and always finishes in the top 3 of his class. So the question is whether he can or can’t drive. I know he can and the video is cool so what’s the flame about?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The racing portion of the video is very cool....and I look forward to seeing him race at Daytona when I am there for the 24. I am always impressed with a good racer, and if the kid is good at this age, then perhaps he is a natural with a long impressive career ahead of him.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gscmotorsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All of the off track footage was taken on a closed road with policy at each end stopping traffic. Sorry they cut that part out it was a controlled environment or at least much more controlled than many of the street racing footage that so many of us enjoy watching is. The Porsche’s racing at the end had nothing to do with Leh they were two totally different drivers that we don’t even know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wish they had put the disclaimer up....I'm watching this as a 35 year old who understands the difference and who also works at a racetrack most weekends of the year. I see what can happen when things go bad at speed...but fortunately (usually) with the appropriate safety equipment in place and no opposing (read: innocent) traffic around. I worry about the kids that I see with their tricked out Hondas (and Mustangs....and Mitsubishis...etc, etc) seeing on the street behavior on vids like this and emulating it on Saturday night.
Then again...it's gonna happen whether the vids promote it or not...
Modified by GreenFlag at 3:13 PM 7/28/2004
The racing portion of the video is very cool....and I look forward to seeing him race at Daytona when I am there for the 24. I am always impressed with a good racer, and if the kid is good at this age, then perhaps he is a natural with a long impressive career ahead of him.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gscmotorsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All of the off track footage was taken on a closed road with policy at each end stopping traffic. Sorry they cut that part out it was a controlled environment or at least much more controlled than many of the street racing footage that so many of us enjoy watching is. The Porsche’s racing at the end had nothing to do with Leh they were two totally different drivers that we don’t even know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wish they had put the disclaimer up....I'm watching this as a 35 year old who understands the difference and who also works at a racetrack most weekends of the year. I see what can happen when things go bad at speed...but fortunately (usually) with the appropriate safety equipment in place and no opposing (read: innocent) traffic around. I worry about the kids that I see with their tricked out Hondas (and Mustangs....and Mitsubishis...etc, etc) seeing on the street behavior on vids like this and emulating it on Saturday night.
Then again...it's gonna happen whether the vids promote it or not...
Modified by GreenFlag at 3:13 PM 7/28/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GreenFlag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I wish they had put the disclaimer up....</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, a disclaimer would be a good thing. (regarding the on-street footage).
I agree, a disclaimer would be a good thing. (regarding the on-street footage).
Sorry for the miss representation. The lack of a disclaimer would lead anyone to believe that these shots were on open roads. Just knowing that they were done properly makes me think that everyone knows they are. My Bad. So I do apologize and please come out and see us at the 24 we will all be there supporting Leh for a Long 24 hours.
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Greg
well looks like things settled down a little bit.
do you track work at VIR? i will be doing a grand-am race there in Oct.
i didnt want to get flamed about the vid. i figured it was pretty entertaining and i had no control over what the IMV films guys did. i just gave them some extra clips to ad to what they already had from rennsport. i like the outcome of the vid but i guess some of you dont.
do you track work at VIR? i will be doing a grand-am race there in Oct.
i didnt want to get flamed about the vid. i figured it was pretty entertaining and i had no control over what the IMV films guys did. i just gave them some extra clips to ad to what they already had from rennsport. i like the outcome of the vid but i guess some of you dont.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingleh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt want to get flamed about the vid. </TD></TR></TABLE>
There's a high level of sensitivity to street racing....especially on the road racing/board. The general thought is that, if you really want to prove who's the better driver, bring your car to the track. Timing and scoring doesn't lie.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingleh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you track work at VIR? i will be doing a grand-am race there in Oct. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I've been a corner worker at VIR for five seasons. The Grand Am race is, IMHO, the best event of the year at VIR.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingleh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i like the outcome of the vid but i guess some of you dont. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The vid was well done (technically, artistically, etc)....just understand the sensitivity and you'll understand the flames.
There's a high level of sensitivity to street racing....especially on the road racing/board. The general thought is that, if you really want to prove who's the better driver, bring your car to the track. Timing and scoring doesn't lie.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingleh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you track work at VIR? i will be doing a grand-am race there in Oct. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I've been a corner worker at VIR for five seasons. The Grand Am race is, IMHO, the best event of the year at VIR.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingleh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i like the outcome of the vid but i guess some of you dont. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The vid was well done (technically, artistically, etc)....just understand the sensitivity and you'll understand the flames.
When all of us have videos made about ourselves then we will be a little more receptive to this sort of "promotional" piece.
We also have no tolerance for street racing and that video started AND ended with general street JackAssery! I will admit that I was turned off right from the beginning because regardless of whether or not that stuff was done on a closed course, it is still intended to seem like it was on open public roads for its "target" audience and I still take issue with that.
We also have no tolerance for street racing and that video started AND ended with general street JackAssery! I will admit that I was turned off right from the beginning because regardless of whether or not that stuff was done on a closed course, it is still intended to seem like it was on open public roads for its "target" audience and I still take issue with that.
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if you really want to prove who's the better driver, bring your car to the track. Timing and scoring doesn't lie.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ive already proved myself. im always at the track. i love timing and scoring sheets.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GreenFlag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been a corner worker at VIR for five seasons. The Grand Am race is, IMHO, the best event of the year at VIR. Are you racing or working with a team? Cup or Rolex?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i will be driving a car for Autometrics motorsports team in the rolex at VIR. blue and white cup car.[/QUOTE]
if you really want to prove who's the better driver, bring your car to the track. Timing and scoring doesn't lie.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ive already proved myself. im always at the track. i love timing and scoring sheets.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GreenFlag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been a corner worker at VIR for five seasons. The Grand Am race is, IMHO, the best event of the year at VIR. Are you racing or working with a team? Cup or Rolex?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i will be driving a car for Autometrics motorsports team in the rolex at VIR. blue and white cup car.[/QUOTE]



