Called them four hours ago to order more GT Sports for the front, and used my $20 certificate. Thanks, Andie!

Toasted mine at the Expo, had to change them to get home, now don't have any spares. Pics to follow later this week...

Cobalt Friction rocks!

 

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Toasted mine at the Expo, had to change them to get home, now don't have any spares. Pics to follow later this week...

Cobalt Friction rocks!
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that all depends on if andie lets me use my gift certificates on the order that went through last friday.

 

dunno, but my new Cobalt GT Sport pads kicked serious *** at the Expo! Four sessions of abuse, and not a bit of brake fade...

(also have SS lines and ATE supaBleu fluid)

Cobaltfriction =

 

Cobalt GT Sports fawkin OWN!!!!!

 

I'm gonna have to give Andie a call too..there was nothing left of the panther plus pads after the last session...but am gald they held up the whole day w/ no prob

 

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(also have SS lines and ATE supaBleu fluid)

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I did a full weekend of VIR full (8 total sessions) earlier this year, and then 8 sessions on saturday at Gateway Int'l's roadcoourse and still haven't toasted mine.. I think the pads were finally wearing down though.. have yet to fade, and have only chirped at me once..

&lt;-- doesn't have SS lines, but does have supablue..

Cobalt Friction definitely is

time to call andie soon..

 

My Cobalt GT Sports held up pretty well. There wasn't any fading and I could easily do another track day on these pads. They didn't wear too much.

Cobalt
Andie

 

I always sleep with my fresh set of GT-Sports under my pillow the first night. Its my way of 'breaking them in'

I :heart: Cobalt

 

Incidentally, the GT Sports that I toasted had 408 actual track miles on them at the time they died. That's a darn good lifespan. Good performance, and there was zero fade, until I hit turn 10 on one of my laps at the Beaver. As it turns out, three of the four pads had 2-3 mm of pad material on them. The fourth, an inner pad, had... bare metal. Photos to follow later this week.

Anyway, I'm VERY happy with the GT Sports. It's a great pad if you want something you can track, and still drive every day on the street.

 

I will be using my certificates in the next few weeks

 

I came to the Expo thinking I'd get rolled big time with my GT-Sports, well they stopped the car from 130MPH for four sessions. Only consequence were my stock OE rear pads, completely gone. I have never gotten this much brake performance from a comparable product -- Hawk HP+

I'm so impressed with the performance of the GT Sports that I'll be placing an order for Spec VRs for the front's and GT Sports for the rear's this week.

 

i can't believe non of you wussies have tried the spec VRs yet...

spec VRs owns the GT sports

 

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I'll be getting the VRs very soon, I killed off the Axxis Ulitimates right down to the backin plate this event. I'll buy those again for the street, they are great but since I have learned how to drive better on the track due to Aaron T, I could never use them anymore.

Gotta say that up untill expo I never thought I could drive faster or better on the track untill Aaron showed me the way.

 

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how big of a difference is it? i was really impressed with the GT Sports over OEM

 

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I love my spec VR's .

 

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For the track, yes.

For the street, no.

So if you want to swap your pads before and after each track event, then the Spec VR may be the better choice. But if you don't...

 

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For the track, yes.

For the street, no.

So if you want to swap your pads before and after each track event, then the Spec VR may be the better choice. But if you don't...
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bah, takes 5 minutes and 2 bolts to swap pads

 

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I know that. I just did it yesterday*. (Although it's a little more than 5 minutes.)

However, there are advantages to keeping the same pads, just like there are advantages to switching.

Do whatever you want to do, and understand why you're doing it your way.

* Note - Nobody saw me, because I woke up early and did it first thing in the morning. All the Expo people were still sleeping. But I had a few nice chats with other hotel guests who were up early taking their dogs out for walks. There was a Portuguese Water Dog named Splash!

 

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the different is night and day
(but the VR is not design for daily driving)

 

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the different is night and day
(but the VR is not design for daily driving)
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Horsepucky! blagh,,, I could drive on them daily if I drove the car daily.

And yes they are night and day compared to sports.

I just remembered I owe you a few $$$ Oz, we need to meet up again soon. You commin to The Glen this year? I'd love another ride in the new pimpmobile

 

GT Sports are definitely great, but unfortunately I have to use Axxis Ultimates since Cobalt doesn't have a D373 application for '90-91 CRX. Good thing Cobalt sells Axxis Ultimates

I've been buying all of my brake pads and fluid from Cobalt for the past 2 years and the service is great

 

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i was privy to an argument where this came up, and basically it was determined that despite them not being designed for it, they will function for street driving just fine..

i'm curious if anyone can say that they are harder on rotors or tend to boil fluid more often with VRs over gt sports.. I love the sports, but would like to see how much better the next step up is or if there is a trade off i'm going to be making.. I have been happy so far and have not cracked rotors or boiled fluid, so I'm apprehensive to go to the full race pads just yet..

&lt;-- was outbraking quite a few cars with much more bling brake setups this weekend(not at the expo)

 

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i'm curious if anyone can say that they are harder on rotors or tend to boil fluid more often with VRs over gt sports.. I love the sports, but would like to see how much better the next step up is or if there is a trade off i'm going to be making.. I have been happy so far and have not cracked rotors or boiled fluid, so I'm apprehensive to go to the full race pads just yet..</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are typically three disadvantages to using track pads for street use:

1. Noise (squealing)
2. Excessive dust
3. Need warming up to be effective

I've tried several other track pads (Endless CC-X, Carbotech Panther Plus, Porterfield R4) although not the Spec VR. All squealed significantly. None dusted any more than any other pad. All were okay when cold, just needed a bit more pedal pressure on the first stop or two. So, based on my experience, track pads can be used on the street, if you're willing to put up with the squealing and if you can remember to tap the brakes a few times when starting out.

I have never heard anyone claim that track pads are more likely to crack rotors or boil fluid than street pads. Those effects occur due to excessive heat generated during track use. The kind of pad has nothing to do with how much heat is generated (although track pads will tolerate higher amounts of heat, without fading or disintegrating, than street-track pads, and street-track pads more than street-only pads).

Certain track pads (notably Hawk Blue) are known to wear rotors faster than others, but this is not true of all track pads AFAIK.

 

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from my personal experience . First of all, I'm not saying the VR will not stop your car if use on street......but if you care to look at the product's info, you will see the VR has a temp range of 350-1800F compare to the GT-sport of 75-950F.

In order to let the pad do their job like what they designed for ....you need to warm them up a bit. Pls understand there's a different between "drive to and from the track" and "daily street driving". I believe Andy wont really recommand the VR if you tell him you will be using it daily and only see the track every 3 mons.

I stand by my common about "day and night different". May be I should also add that I was using the VR with R-compound tires. I know some ppl using the VR with street tire and they are very please with the result but wait until you start using R-compound......you will be

 

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I have never heard anyone claim that track pads are more likely to crack rotors or boil fluid than street pads. Those effects occur due to excessive heat generated during track use. The kind of pad has nothing to do with how much heat is generated (although track pads will tolerate higher amounts of heat, without fading or disintegrating, than street-track pads, and street-track pads more than street-only pads).

Certain track pads (notably Hawk Blue) are known to wear rotors faster than others, but this is not true of all track pads AFAIK.
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well, this is on a non-streeted car, so I don't have to worry about that.. I had just been thinking that more heat would be generated using the VRs and could as a result be harder on rotors and fluid.. but that's why I asked, because I didn't know how that played out in the real world.. ie, the ability of the pad to handle higher heat translates to someone taking advantage of that and thus generating more heat..