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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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Default How much longer do the ES100 last VS Azenis?

Looking for a daily driving / weekend auto-x tire that will last me awhile daily driving and not break the bank.

Azenis are a tad annoying on the street.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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look at the tread wear number. the lower the number, the less they last. i believe the ES100 last longer
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking for a daily driving / weekend auto-x tire that will last me awhile daily driving and not break the bank.

Azenis are a tad annoying on the street. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Get MX, Dennis. You won't like ES100, unless you have track wheels/tire combo set aside.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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I like my ES100s I don't care what any of you guys say!!!
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cosworth &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Get MX, Dennis. You won't like ES100, unless you have track wheels/tire combo set aside.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree, the es100 is a great street tire but the sidewalls are way too soft for the track...

btw, advan neova AD07
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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i've learned to live with the whine of azenis &gt;&lt;
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i agree, the es100 is a great street tire but the sidewalls are way too soft for the track...

btw, advan neova AD07 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Used both...didnt like the ES100...use the neova AD07 for daily driving, also serves as an awsome tire for wet conditions.

if you decide on the neovas dennis lmk
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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my first set of es100's seemed to handle a bit better. I'm going to try the mx's next time.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Dennis,

I've had both and the es100's last a bit longer, but if it were my money I'd go w/ the MX. Have them on the p-car and they are awesome for the price. Best buy of all the tires you're considering.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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i am also curious about the kumho mx's. however, i can't seem to find an appropriate size for 16x7 rims.

205/55/16 - too tall + rubbing (with lowered sus.)
225/50/16 - too wide & tall + rubbing (with lowered sus.)

with 15's and 17's, there seem to be better choices. :shrugs:

kepani-who's happy to see kkim posting even though "da r" is gone.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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K-

Howzit! Still got the R. Waiting on installing the PSS9s in th p-car in a few weeks before I sell the backup.

16" tire sizes suck... you knew that when you bought that bling! wait... I thought those were 15x7 TE's you bought?

aloha, brah!
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kkim &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">K-

Howzit! Still got the R. Waiting on installing the PSS9s in th p-car in a few weeks before I sell the backup. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, jus' got the 99tree and putting on some bilsteins already!?! :jealous:
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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no be ladat. Until the PSS9s are in, the R easily outhandles the pig, so no be J.

99tree suspension is usually toast by 20-30k miles.... why ??? you like race, eh?

and now, back to your local programing.

sorry, dennis....

seriously, consider the MX, too.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Bridgestone RE-01.

IM me if you need a set.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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i love my mx's, i really dont think the es100's compare period.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Default Re: How much longer do the ES100 last VS Azenis? (hadboosttroy)

How about Toyo T1s
i went with Toyo T1S 225/40/16 and use 16x7 rims when I used to autoX and track (only 3 times for the track )


-aoib0t, who posted this somewhere else
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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I'd estimate that the MX's will go almost 25k miles before having to replace the set. The set I have now has 1 yr/1month and 15k miles on it and has another 3/32" to 1/8" of tread depth left before hitting the indicator. That's about 1/3 of the tread left not counting using some of the meat under the wear indicator.

They originally started at 9/32". The Azenis start at 8/32", and most other street tires will start at 10/32", unless you shave them.

The one time I looked at my friend's ES100's, the compound looked a lot harder and greasier than the MX's. The MX's are definitely a much softer compound.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Default Re: How much longer do the ES100 last VS Azenis? (Mario)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bridgestone RE-01.

IM me if you need a set.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dennis...sorry for the thread hijack, but Mario you got PM
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurblowR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look at the tread wear number. the lower the number, the less they last. i believe the ES100 last longer</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can't go by that. The tread wear number system varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, complying with the UTQG. Can someone back me up on this or am I way off?
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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anyone tried the new RE-01<FONT COLOR="red">R</FONT> yet? i've read (in japanese magazines of course) that it outperforms the RE-01s and Neova AD07 by a significant margin. they're pretty expensive but i'm thinking about picking up a set anyway
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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Looking at the treadwear number won't tell you anything as all tire companies use a different scale.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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Default Re: How much longer do the ES100 last VS Azenis? (B2FiNiTY)

Funny how no one is answering the original question:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> How much longer do the ES100 last VS Azenis?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Azenis typically last anywhere from 10K to 15K miles, with an occasional outlier at 20K but that's unusual.

The ES100 will last 2-3 times as many miles as the Azenis - figure 25-40K miles, possibly more. Somewhat less if you use them at track events.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bridgestone RE-01.

IM me if you need a set.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Or the advan AO48
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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the kumho mx has some weird looking side design right?? i'm not talking bout the tread.. i'm jus talking bout the side imprints on the tire.. ne one have pix of this tire on their itr????
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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If you don't wanna go with Azenis, I'd advise MXs. ES100s are not in the same ballpark.
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