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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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which is a better swap? is k20 an expensive swap?
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Much more expensive due to it being new, mounts, wiring etc.

K20R is superior though.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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k20 for sure. Even the type s > c5
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Any engine built properly can be superior...

For the cost of a K20R swap you can have a superior B18C swap built to put down over 210hp+ to the wheels. Can't do that with the K20R for the same price...
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EKCivicR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any engine built properly can be superior...

For the cost of a K20R swap you can have a superior B18C swap built to put down over 210hp+ to the wheels. Can't do that with the K20R for the same price...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah dude but you reall dont have to go through alot of trouble to get the k20C engine to that point .
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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so price wise Id be better off just getting the b18?
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Yes.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goldenboi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so price wise Id be better off just getting the b18?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Price wise, yes. But a K20 w/ bolt-ons puts down incredible numbers.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Price wise, yes. But a K20 w/ bolt-ons puts down incredible numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im surprised no one talks about clearance issues.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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ahh but I probably cant afford the bolt ons after I get the motor in the first place. If I went b18 Id at least have a lil to spend on it, that is pricewise of course
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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what will you be using the car for?
remember even though the k20 is far better than b18c, you have to consider the reliability and comfortability of the car. with a b18c you could keep all the accesories, and practically nothing need to be modified or custom made, you could buy parts for it over the counter.
but if you plan on having a race car and the rules permits it, or you don't care for rule, then a k20 is a better route.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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One big reason im going to get a K20 is because the Ooooohhhhs and ahhhhhs Ill get when I pop my hood thats the honest truth . Plus Ill get a six speed I wont be like everyone else and you have a great chance to improve to a 2.4Liter. Daaaamn
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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guy that bought my old car recently did a k20 in it, with a cai and tuning with a k-from, the car put down 212 and 150. these engines have amazing potential, look at dennis's hondatar h1 car, isnt it liek 253 with the engine remailing untouched.
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sure you can get 212 from your b18c5, but you dont have oem stock reliability anymore
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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I'm kinda frightened with the K-series swap pics I've seen.

Oil pan = owned!
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm kinda frightened with the K-series swap pics I've seen.

Oil pan = owned!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even the Ek one?
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Are we all forgetting something here? $$$MONEY$$$ Price wise on the same budget... B series swap is still KING. Better yet a B20Vtec.

If you spend 8-10K on a B series swap versus a swap with the K20 in the same budget, you will rape a K20.

Sure each engine has it potential, and the K20 motor is technically advanced over the B series motors. But the price make the K20 look unattractive even though it's a very SEXY motor.

With all this money being spend... my choice motor would be an B18A/B or B20B/Z built with sleeves & Turbocharged. Can you say your a proud member of the 500HP CLUB? ( Deja Vu CheeseFrog)

Comes down to it, $8K to 10K spent for a mildly modded K20 at 220HP+ cannot be sexier than a B series motor on boost pumping 400hp+... can it?
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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k20's are on a whole other level.. im still happy with by b series.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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boost the k20
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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so is it true the oil pan hangs low? so that means you cant drive your car low to the ground anymore???
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EKCivicR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are we all forgetting something here? $$$MONEY$$$ Price
Comes down to it, $8K to 10K spent for a mildly modded K20 at 220HP+ cannot be sexier than a B series motor on boost pumping 400hp+... can it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

not all of us drag race our hondas, LOL
beauty of the k is the oem stock reliabilty
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Not to mention that unless you get a K20R swap, you will NOT get a LSD with the tranny. No LSD w/ all the power = ghey.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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Kinda of debatable depending on the platform you are using that motor in. Personally I'd just run an ls with a block gaurd and basic internals and boost it. Seeing as how you can get the Ls for dirt these days. However the K series has incredible potential just looking at South Florida's RSX. WIth a head gasker, head studs, and I think a mild street cam the car made 416 to the wheels on stock internals and 17psi
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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You could buy a b18 and build it up and have more hp than the k20 for the same money
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Anybody on the east coast doing K series Swaps??
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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k20r hands down is a better engine, but expensive as hell though
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